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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=576320814-28032008>Hi
all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008> Indeed, it seems the space for trees
on individual lots is shrinking with the move toward densification.
Densification, of course, is aimed at reducing overall environmental impacts, or
individual ecological footprints, through the ability, for instance, to provide
for effective public transit (more potential users per square
kilometre), less energy consumption per residential
unit etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008> Perhaps, as urban foresters
wanting to participate in the urban planning process, we need to inform
ourselves as to the environmental values that planners, engineers and
others believe occur with densification and then be able to articulate
the potential impacts to the urban forest for their consideration. And
particularly the impacts to the potential, or lack thereof, future urban
forest that could occur through new tree planting in these newly built out
areas.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008> In order to articulate the
impacts to the urban forest perhaps we need to emphasize an end goal,
perhaps a tree canopy cover standard, that can be measured. Also,
perhaps we need to be knowledgeable about the real space requirements to provide
for healthy trees and articulate these in standards, specifications,
plans, and planning discussions with other
stakeholders. How many of us regularly affirm and assert
the standard soil requirements of a tree as expressed in cubic meters,
something that engineers can often nod an understanding to since it is
measurable. Do we realistically describe the root crown area
requirement in terms of square meters or canopy size requirement in terms
of height and breadth? Are they in technical documents similar to the
Engineering Standards documents that most towns and cities
have.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008> Perhaps a worthy research project
would be to measure, or realistically project, the tree canopy cover in the
different residential zones (RF7, RF9 etc), and break it down to private
and public property contribution. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008> I advocate as often as possible
the need to provide adequate and realistic space for large canopy
public property trees and forests as they represent the best
case scenario for providing for urban green infrastructure that will
be beneficial to all. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=576320814-28032008>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greg Ward</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Manager,
Urban Forestry and Environmental Programs</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>City of Surrey, B.C.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>604 501
5170</FONT> </P>
<P><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>'Nature matters,</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT
face=Arial size=2>protect, enhance, enjoy'</FONT></I> </P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=576320814-28032008> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Jeremy Gye<BR><B>Sent:</B> March 27, 2008 7:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Canadian Urban Forest Network'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANUFNET] Boulevard
Plantings<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=724595014-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Here is a related consideration from a broader landscape
perspective on the topic of tree planting on public property. We are
experiencing a lot of in-fill development in our more developed areas and
greenfield development in the peri-urban areas with a significant net-loss of
urban forest. As lot sizes diminish and house sizes dramatically
increase, the opportunies for adequate tree replacement on private lots are
falling. This seems to me to point the way toward increased emphasis on
acquiring, perhaps reconfiguring boulevards and meridians, in order to plant
more on public lands. Any thoughts on this build-out trend?
Implications for future plantings? maintenance? resources?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=724595014-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Jeremy Gye</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=724595014-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Urban Forest Stewardship Initiative - Greater
Victoria</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net
[mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ian
Wilson<BR><B>Sent:</B> March-26-08 12:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Canadian Urban
Forest Network<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANUFNET] Boulevard
Plantings<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=692553919-26032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Guy,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=692553919-26032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=692553919-26032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>sounds like you have a bit of a challenge ahead of you. Here's a
few comments as to our practices in Kelowna, BC:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=692553919-26032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=692553919-26032008><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008>- </SPAN>Do you only plant where residents are
receptive and skip those that are not?<SPAN class=692553919-26032008>
</SPAN></SPAN>Do you plant trees where residents request them not to be?
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN class=692553919-26032008>In
the past, we sometimes planted trees whether the resident wanted them or
not. We no longer do that, because sometimes the tree ends up getting
vandalized or poorly cared for. Now we send out a letter and ask, and
don't force them to accept a boulevard tree - this approach seems to be
appreciated by the residents. Later on if they change their minds or the
the house is sold, we are open to going back and doing additional in-fill
planting if we have the necessary resources.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=692553919-26032008>- </SPAN>Do you conduct a survey
of an area and plant if a certain % of affirmative is reached?
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN class=692553919-26032008>Our
focus is planting on arterial and collector roads. We only plant on
local / residential streets if a majority of the households on the street can
agree that they want street trees. We leave it up to them (a volunteer
who lives there) to canvas the neighbourhood and show that there is support
for planting. If this planting initiative comes from the neighbourhood,
then they seem to take a more active role in caring for the
trees.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=692553919-26032008>- </SPAN>What about planting on
municipal property with no boulevard strip directly in front of residents
home?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff>We do plant on the city
right-of-way where there is no boulevard strip, we have quite a few trees in
these types of plantings. In some sense this creates even more of a
sense of ownership and you have fewer problems with infrastructure (sidewalks)
and the trees do well because of the expanded root volume. Sometimes
there is "too much" ownership however as the resident may decide to improperly
prune the tree themselves, so we occasionally have to remind them that they
can't prune the trees on the right-of-way.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff>Some cities have also
successfully given away free (or subsidized) trees to homeowners which must be
planted behind the city right of way on private property. Sometimes the
owner has to sign a contract to water and care for the tree. The
advantage is that the city has some control over what is planted and the
citizens get the benefits of the tree without having to pay for
maintenance. But you also lose some control over long term
maintenance.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff>We are currently working to
change our subdivision bylaw so that in new subdivisions, the developer has to
plant a certain number of trees on private properties, so we again get the
benefits without the additional maintenance.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff>Ian
Wilson</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=692553919-26032008><FONT color=#0000ff>City of
Kelowna</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Guy Martin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:58
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Canadian Urban Forest Network<BR><B>Cc:</B> Len
Walters<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANUFNET] Boulevard
Plantings<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello all,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We have currently been planting
trees on city owned boulevards. Basically a strip of turf 1-2 meters wide
between the sidewalk and the road…this is in residential
areas.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As you can imagine we have
encountered both positive and negative comments from various homeowners. In
the past we have planted our properties and boulevard strips without much of
a problem and have just gone ahead and done so.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The road we are currently or
rather I should say were working on, also happens to be the Mayor’s road
(election year), and he is getting heat from some neighbors.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We are now sending out a letter
informing that we are doing this albeit it is late and rather obvious that
this is going on.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This is not a new development
but an established area that has decent tree cover now, larger estate lots
that will most likely be zoned for a higher density in the next 10 or so
years, with tree removal occurring then, so it would be nice to have our
street trees established.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would like to inquire what
other municipalities do or have done for this type of
scenario.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you plant trees where
residents request them not to be? </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you only plant where
residents are receptive and skip those that are not?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you conduct a survey of an
area and plant if a certain % of affirmative is reached? </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What about planting on municipal
property with no boulevard strip directly in front of residents
home?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any insight on this problem is
welcome!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Guy Martin</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">City of </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Langley</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Parks
Department</SPAN></FONT></P>
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