<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi Mike,<br><br>Thanks for the reply to my plea. I would love to hear about your linden, sounds immense! Do you have the name of the local nursery you mentioned? I would love to get in touch with them to get detailed care information.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>David Stevenson<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Viburnum Tree Experts <viburnumtrees@shaw.ca><br>To: canufnet@list.web.net<br>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:40:54 PM<br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Large tree moving<br><br>I am currently working on a project which involves the movement of a<br>well established Dropmore linden tree having a DBH of 28 cm. The tree is<br>scheduled to be moved this
spring in Winnipeg. If the project goes ahead<br>it will certainly be a news making item. I will report on how well this<br>was done as I will follow its survival very carefully.<br><br>There is a local area nursery that prepares large deciduous trees for<br>moving in the 20 to 30 cm DBH range through successive transplantings<br>using a larger diameter tree spade each time. All trees are in a nursery<br>environment and well separated from adjacent trees. The moving success<br>rate is excellent.<br><br>Mike Allen MScF, RPF<br>Viburnum Tree Experts<br>Winnipeg, Manitoba<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net">canufnet-bounces@list.web.net</a><br>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net">canufnet-bounces@list.web.net</a>] On Behalf Of<br><a ymailto="mailto:canufnet-request@list.web.net"
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ymailto="mailto:canufnet-owner@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet-owner@list.web.net">canufnet-owner@list.web.net</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than<br>"Re: Contents of CANUFNET digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing it that is)<br> (David Stevenson)<br> 2. Re: How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing it that is)<br> (Jack Radecki)<br> 3. Re: How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing it that is)<br> (Julian Dunster)<br> 4. Re: How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing it that is)<br> (For Trees Company Ltd.)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:37:20 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: David Stevenson <<a
ymailto="mailto:dcistevenson@yahoo.com" href="mailto:dcistevenson@yahoo.com">dcistevenson@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: [CANUFNET] How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing it<br> that is)<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net">canufnet@list.web.net</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:308582.18436.qm@web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com" href="mailto:308582.18436.qm@web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com">308582.18436.qm@web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Hello All,<br><br>I have been receiving conflicting information about the size of tree<br>that can be successfully moved with a tree spade. I have heard anywhere<br>from 18" dbh (from a contractor who wants to move the trees) to 5" dbh<br>(from a developer who doesn't want to pay to move them). While there is<br>no point in moving trees that are going to just give up the ghost, there<br>must be
some diameter above which the success rate drops off<br>unacceptably. Just wondering if anyone has any experience in the matter.<br><br>The trees in question are predominantly Colorado Blue Spruce planted ~20<br>years ago from nursery stock. They range in dbh from 7-11" and 5-7m in<br>height.<br><br>Does anyone have any information about the successful moving of large<br>caliper trees or know of anyone or anywhere I can find this information?<br><br><br>Cheers,<br><br>David Stevenson, MScF, RPF<br>ConsultingForester,<br>KBMForestry Consultants Inc.<br>807345-5445 x239<br><br><br><br><br><br> __________________________________________________________________<br>Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! <br><br><a href="http://www.flickr.com/gift/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/gift/</a><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a
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charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>I have moved lots of trees including Colorado Spruce with a 90 inch tree<br>spade. On clay sites the roots are very shallow and spreading. The rule<br>of thumb usually is one foot of soil for every inch diameter (caliper) <br>Therefore up to 8 inch caliper but I have moved up to 11 inches as well<br>but require much TLC. Ant transplanted tree must be watered regularly to<br>ensure success anyways,<br><br>Jack Radecki<br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: David Stevenson <br> To: <a ymailto="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net">canufnet@list.web.net</a> <br> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:37 AM<br> Subject: [CANUFNET] How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing it<br>that is)<br><br><br> Hello All,<br><br> I have been receiving conflicting information about the size of tree<br>that can be successfully moved with a tree spade. I have heard
anywhere<br>from 18" dbh (from a contractor who wants to move the trees) to 5" dbh<br>(from a developer who doesn't want to pay to move them). While there is<br>no point in moving trees that are going to just give up the ghost, there<br>must be some diameter above which the success rate drops off<br>unacceptably. Just wondering if anyone has any experience in the matter.<br><br> The trees in question are predominantly Colorado Blue Spruce planted<br>~20 years ago from nursery stock. They range in dbh from 7-11" and 5-7m<br>in height.<br><br> Does anyone have any information about the successful moving of large<br>caliper trees or know of anyone or anywhere I can find this information?<br><br><br> Cheers,<br><br><br> David Stevenson, MScF, RPF<br><br> Consulting Forester,<br><br> KBM Forestry Consultants Inc.<br><br> 807 345-5445
x239<br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>------<br> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a href="http://list.web.net/archives/canufnet/attachments/20080420/1122cb8f/atta" target="_blank">http://list.web.net/archives/canufnet/attachments/20080420/1122cb8f/atta</a><br>chment-0001.htm <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:05:06 -0700<br>From: "Julian Dunster" <<a ymailto="mailto:jadunster@gmail.com" href="mailto:jadunster@gmail.com">jadunster@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing<br> it that is)<br>To: "Canadian Urban Forest Network" <<a ymailto="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net"
href="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net">canufnet@list.web.net</a>><br>Message-ID: <003d01c8a27a$3126df00$0300a8c0@julian><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>The size you describe should be simple enough. In reality I am not sure<br>there is a limit to the the size that can be moved. I recently saw a<br>very large ficus at Hong Kong disneyland that was moved on an enormous<br>flat bed. In the US specialised companies regularly move enormous trees<br>successfully. It just takes time and lots of money. Check the ISA web<br>site and catologue. I think it's Watson and Himelinck that is the book<br>you seek for more info.<br><br>jd<br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: David Stevenson <br> To: <a ymailto="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net">canufnet@list.web.net</a> <br> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:37 AM<br> Subject: [CANUFNET] How big a tree can be moved?
(Without killing it<br>that is)<br><br><br> Hello All,<br><br> I have been receiving conflicting information about the size of tree<br>that can be successfully moved with a tree spade. I have heard anywhere<br>from 18" dbh (from a contractor who wants to move the trees) to 5" dbh<br>(from a developer who doesn't want to pay to move them). While there is<br>no point in moving trees that are going to just give up the ghost, there<br>must be some diameter above which the success rate drops off<br>unacceptably. Just wondering if anyone has any experience in the matter.<br><br> The trees in question are predominantly Colorado Blue Spruce planted<br>~20 years ago from nursery stock. They range in dbh from 7-11" and 5-7m<br>in height.<br><br> Does anyone have any information about the successful moving of large<br>caliper trees or know of anyone or anywhere I can find this information?<br><br><br> Cheers,<br><br><br> David
Stevenson, MScF, RPF<br><br> Consulting Forester,<br><br> KBM Forestry Consultants Inc.<br><br> 807 345-5445 x239<br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>------<br> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a href="http://list.web.net/archives/canufnet/attachments/20080419/200d49ff/atta" target="_blank">http://list.web.net/archives/canufnet/attachments/20080419/200d49ff/atta</a><br>chment-0001.htm <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:22:23 -0600<br>From: "For Trees Company Ltd." <<a ymailto="mailto:trees@fortrees.ca" href="mailto:trees@fortrees.ca">trees@fortrees.ca</a>><br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing<br> it that is)<br>To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
<<a ymailto="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net">canufnet@list.web.net</a>><br>Message-ID: <000801c8a27c$9b2a8a80$6501a8c0@desktop><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>David,<br>The "rule of thumb" for tree moving is to transplant a tree<br>successfully, a rootball 10 to 12 times the diameter of the tree<br>measured 6 to 12 inches above the root flare must be moved with the<br>tree. Hence, 4" diameter tree requires about a 44" or larger rootball,<br>48" being ideal, or a 40" minimum. The largest treespades that can fit<br>on a truck are 90 inches, therefore, one should not attempt to move any<br>tree larger than about 8 or 9 inches at the narrowest part above the<br>root flare. Larger machines are sometimes available on semi-trailers, up<br>to 128 inches, and I have heard of large earth-moving equipment with 144<br>inch spades, but such machines are exceedingly rare, and quite costly
to<br>operate, costing well into the 3 and 4 hundred thousands of dollars to<br>manufacture, minus the power unit. Road clearances and road loading<br>restrictions are often serious impediments to moving the very large<br>trees. Of course, in the tropics, large, 200 tonne weeping fig trees are<br>"routinely" moved in places like Australia, but a lot of pre and post<br>care is required, along with three or four computer linked 100 tonne<br>cranes. In Canada, standards for tree transplanting are available from<br>the Canadian Nursery Landscape Association. Gerard Fournier, BCMA <br>----- Original Message ----- <br> From: David Stevenson <br> To: <a ymailto="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net" href="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net">canufnet@list.web.net</a> <br> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:37 AM<br> Subject: [CANUFNET] How big a tree can be moved? (Without killing it<br>that is)<br><br><br> Hello All,<br><br> I
have been receiving conflicting information about the size of tree<br>that can be successfully moved with a tree spade. I have heard anywhere<br>from 18" dbh (from a contractor who wants to move the trees) to 5" dbh<br>(from a developer who doesn't want to pay to move them). While there is<br>no point in moving trees that are going to just give up the ghost, there<br>must be some diameter above which the success rate drops off<br>unacceptably. Just wondering if anyone has any experience in the matter.<br><br> The trees in question are predominantly Colorado Blue Spruce planted<br>~20 years ago from nursery stock. They range in dbh from 7-11" and 5-7m<br>in height.<br><br> Does anyone have any information about the successful moving of large<br>caliper trees or know of anyone or anywhere I can find this information?<br><br><br> Cheers,<br><br><br> David Stevenson, MScF, RPF<br><br> Consulting Forester,<br><br> KBM
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