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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=210412913-02072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Public trees that are believed to be an imminent hazard are
not posted - there is no public consultation. The site is protected by
warning tape or sometimes staff members and the hazard is alleviated as soon as
possible. Sometimes this means removing most of the canopy and leaving the
remainder for completion later during regular work hours.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=210412913-02072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=210412913-02072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Public trees that should be removed soon for prudence,
whether economic or safety, are posted with removal notices. The
public is given at least one week, usually several, to witness the notice and
make a response. If the tree is in a place where the public thinks of it
as private property, for instance in a yard between the public sidewalk and the
house, direct contact is made with the residents of the house. In most
cases there is no opposition</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>and the removal proceeds. This is economical in that the declining
tree is dealt with once and not several times, and potential service calls or
damage claims are averted. In the cases where there is strong and
unbending opposition to the removal, the case can still be made for the need to
remove the deadwood or other obvious hazards in the canopy. This gives the
members of the public a sense of achievement in that the tree is kept, and the
custodian of the tree has done due diligence. A year or two later the now
- reduced tree can be posted again, usually this time without any
opposition. This costs more but gives better public service than getting
into a power struggle over the removal of a tree that doesn't actually pose an
imminent hazard.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=210412913-02072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=210412913-02072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The removal notice should not identify the tree as a
hazard, only as an item on which the steward of the tree intends to take action,
and there should be the expectation of negotiating with the public in some
cases.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=210412913-02072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Randall Spahl</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=210412913-02072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Certified Arborist - ISA</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net
[mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Fisher,
Brian<BR><B>Sent:</B> 2008 June 27 1:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Dan
Marzocco<BR><B>Cc:</B> Canadian Urban Forest Network<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[CANUFNET] Hazard Tree Removal Signage<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I don't think you create liability by posting signs,
provided you proceed with the work in a timely manner.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>You might want to ask yourself why you want to post
signs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Surely you advise those who are most effected (e.g.
adjacent home owner). Why would you post a sign?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Is the removal optional ? Can the opinions (which you will
solicit by posting a sign) of the general citizenship</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>influence your decision ? If so, why is the removal
happening ? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>If there are several trees in an area and therefore they
will create an impact in the community, I suggest you
door-hangar</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>for 2 or 3 blocks but the focus of that message should be:
<FONT color=#008000>"These trees MUST be removed for public
safety.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#008000 size=2>NEW trees will be REPLANTED within the next 6 (?)
months."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>While I support providing public information, I suggest it
is counter productive to :</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>1. seek approval if you are not prepared to accept
"No".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>2. allow the "generally uninformed" public to set your
policy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>You are charged with the responsibility to 1. protect the
city from liability and the public from harm.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
size=2>
and 2. to protect and maintain the trees that are under your
care.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>It would seem to me that it would be important to
let the public know that the decisions made to either retain or remove
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>trees will be made by the City (with independent &
expert advice if necessary) but not influenced by factors other
than </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>tree health, public safety, or municipal
liability.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Very frequently the public opinion around removal
retention is driven by:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>1.Wanting ( cooling) or not wanting (can't get my
garden to grow) shade. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>2. Keeping people from seeing in (screens) Keeping me from
seeing out (views).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Tough decisions to make if you allow these
influences.</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=432075118-27062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV><PRE dir=ltr><SPAN class=432075118-27062008> <!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><P align=left><B><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=1>Brian Fisher B.A.</FONT></SPAN></B></P><P align=left><B><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=1>Certified Arborist - R.P. Bio.</FONT></SPAN></B></P><P align=center><B><SPAN lang=en-us><I><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#008000 size=1></FONT></I></SPAN></B> </P></SPAN></PRE><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net
[mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dan
Marzocco<BR><B>Sent:</B> 2008, June 26 1:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
canufnet@list.web.net<BR><B>Cc:</B> David Speed; Gord Smith; Iggy
Kadar<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANUFNET] Hazard Tree Removal
Signage<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=937255120-26062008>Good Afternoon All -
Do any of you have any comments around posting Hazard Trees with removal notices
for a period of time as a way of communicating the removals to the Public? One
issue may be liabilities if the tree falls during the posting period. How do you
communicate removals to the Public? Hope to hear your thoughts and
experiences.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937255120-26062008>Thanks...Dan</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan Marzocco</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Supervisor of Arboriculture</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Parks Division</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>1 Centennial Square</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Victoria BC V8W 1P6</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tel (250) 361-0603</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fax (250) 361-0615</FONT></SPAN>
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