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<DIV><SPAN class=234352416-28112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Linda,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=234352416-28112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've
had some similar experiences with engineering staff, utilities, etc. Among
some of these professionals there seems to be a belief that the tree is
expendable and that it's a lot easier and cheaper to remove the tree than to try
to accomodate the tree. I try to work with these folks and educate them
about the value of the tree(s) (monetary and social) and the fact that they (and
us) could get heavily criticised by the public and by the politicians. If
that doesn't work we also have a tree bylaw that says if you damage or remove a
publilc tree you have to pay "equitable compensation" based upon the ISA tree
appraisal formulae which can be significant. I also like to explain that
the tree is another piece of public infrastructure and they wouldn't do
something to damage or undermine a street light, so why do this to a
tree?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=234352416-28112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Using
this approach we've been able to get utility lines re-routed, utilities tunneled
under trees rather than trenched, sidewalks moved, and even entire road profiles
and curbs moved over. Road engineers in particular tend to really like
straight linear designs but you can get them to start thinking outside the
box.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=234352416-28112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ian
Wilson</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=234352416-28112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>City
of Kelowna</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Moskalyk, Linda (IS - Parks)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November
27, 2008 9:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'canufnet@list.web.net'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[CANUFNET] Removal of trees for replacement of water
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<DIV>We recently had a valuable American elm removed from our boulevard
because the engineers (management) made a decision to replace a hydrant and
insisted the tree beside it would have to come down. Our urban forestry people
were told that they needed to excavate 4 feet on each side of the hydrant to
replace it. The tree was only 2 feet away. We reluctantly removed
the tree, and now there is an uproar from the community. As the tree was
coming down some of the enginneers (field workers this time) came along and
said they probably could have worked within that 2 foot area. Its hard
to know who to believe. Alternately, could the hydrant have been capped
off and the line rerouted to a new location? We are arbortists and don't
know the options when it comes to sewer and water. We want to have the
knowledge and ability to argue for alternative methods that could potentially
save the trees. Is there any good information or advice on the
subject?</DIV>
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<DIV>Linda Moskalyk</DIV>
<DIV>Certified Arborist</DIV>
<DIV>Urban Forestry Section</DIV>
<DIV>Parks Dept.</DIV>
<DIV>City of Saskatoon</DIV>
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