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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have personally planted or supervised the planting thousands of trees. When you use wire baskets beware of "nursery disease" that is the extra soil on top of the root ball that results from mechanical cultivation in nursery rows. Not only do you get less than 10% of the root fibre here but on top of that you get an unnatural root ball. Having said this you need to peel back the top layer of burlap at the least anyways to see. Yes, better to plant slightly higher than grade especially on clay soils. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jack Radecki<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Murray<br><b>Sent:</b> March-28-11 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Canadian Urban Forest Network<br><b>Subject:</b> [?? Probable Spam] Re: [CANUFNET] Planting depth<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I agree with the majority of writers. Planting too deeply here on the west coast is problematic. I have been teaching students to plant trees at a depth that exposes the top most root as per Gilman's work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF430703><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] on behalf of Philip van Wassenaer [pwassenaer1022@rogers.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 28, 2011 8:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Canadian Urban Forest Network'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CANUFNET] Planting depth</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am with Gilman on this one. Too deep almost always causes problems, a little shallow, hardly any. That is coming back anecdotally here too.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Philip van Wassenaer, B.SC., MFC</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1248 Minnewaska Trail</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mississauga, Ontario</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Canada, L5G 3S5</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel: (905) 274-1022</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cell: (647) 221 3046</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax: (905) 274 2170</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=158 height=84 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CBED74.38BDE770" alt="UFI logo extra space.JPG"></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.urbanforestinnovations.com/" target="_blank">www.urbanforestinnovations.com</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 28, 2011 10:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Canadian Urban Forest Network<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CANUFNET] Planting depth</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks. In my view Gilman is correct. In the last several years we have been removing lots of excess soil from the root ball and haven’t seen any issues with root crown injury. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ian Wilson</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>City of Kelowna</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Braaten, Lorilee (IS - Parks)<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 28, 2011 7:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Canadian Urban Forest Network'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CANUFNET] Planting depth</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dr. Hannah Mathers stated at the SNLA conference that the root shank (area of exposed root tissue that results from production practices) should never be exposed above the soil line because it may be the cause of increased crown injury. She explained that it may not be cold hardy, may be prone to sunscald or easily injured by herbicides. I have not seen any increase of injury to this exposed root crown area and can not justify changing our planting practices when I have seen the issues of planting too deep.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Wilson<br><b>Sent:</b> March 25, 2011 1:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> canufnet@list.web.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CANUFNET] Planting depth</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I'm familiar with the Gilman work, what is the other view you mentioned?<br><br>Ian Wilson<br>City of Kelowna<br><br>--------------------------<br>Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: canufnet-bounces@list.web.net <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net><br>To: 'canufnet@list.web.net' <canufnet@list.web.net><br>Sent: Fri Mar 25 12:12:53 2011<br>Subject: [CANUFNET] Planting depth<br><br>Hello everyone,<br><br><br><br>I have recently attended to two seminars, one with Dr. Ed Gilman and one with Dr. Hanna Mathers. The two have very different views on planting depth.<br><br>I would like to hear others opinions on planting trees at the same depth as previously planted vs. planting higher (at or near the root flare). It seems there may be possible problems associated with either practice when planting container or bareroot trees and some issues may be species specific. We have had good results with planting depth near the root flare and have not experienced any issues because of it. I am interested in your comments.<br><br><br><br>Lorilee Braaten<br><br>Nursery Technician, Urban Forestry<br><br>City of Saskatoon<br><br>1101 Ave P North. Saskatoon, Sk. S7L 7K6<br><br>cell: (306)220 6318<br><br>fax: (306)975 3034</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>