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<DIV>But it does provide a partial answer to what to do when one owner wants to
butcher a tree along a property line because he doesn’t want anything
overhanging his property and the other one wants to keep the tree healthy.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Stephen
Smith<BR>Urban Forest Associates Inc.<BR>Urban Forestry and Ecological
Restoration<BR>www.ufora.ca</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=a.satel@utoronto.ca
href="mailto:a.satel@utoronto.ca">Alex Satel</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:48 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=canufnet@list.web.net
href="mailto:canufnet@list.web.net">'Canadian Urban Forest Network'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANUFNET] Municipal tree
ownership/responsibility</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Terry,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks for pointing this out, as
it poses an interesting challenge to how communities might define ‘ownership’ of
trees. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Clearly this isn’t a legal
analysis (as I’m not a lawyer), but it seems to me that none of the by-law or
policy definitions of tree ownership, as defined by municipalities, are actually
framed under this legislation, and this appears to be the only law in Ontario
that actually addresses how tree ownership should be determined. The disconnect
seems to be that a municipality can’t actually claim ‘ownership’ over a tree if
any part of it is on a boundary line; by definition these trees are ‘common
property’ and I would think that both owners have equal rights to the tree. In
practice, I can only see this becoming an issue if the tree is scheduled for
removal by municipal crews without the co-owner’s consent. I suppose this is why
the City of Toronto and others request sign-off before they undertake
maintenance on shared trees.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">An interesting issue, to be
sure.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks again to everyone for
their responses. Keep ‘em coming!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">And thanks to Andy for his
continual work moderating this list. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">-Alex<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Alex Satel,
MFC<BR></SPAN></B><I><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ISA Certified
Arborist ON-1353A<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Urban Forest
Innovations Inc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">1248 Minnewaska
Trail<BR>Mississauga, ON L5G 3S5<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">T: (905)
274-1022<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">C: (416)
452-8054<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #31849b; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="mailto:asatel@ufis.ca"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #31849b">asatel@ufis.ca</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #31849b; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="http://www.urbanforestinnovations.com/"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #31849b">http://www.urbanforestinnovations.com</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Schwan, Terry (MNR)<BR><B>Sent:</B> December 20, 2011 8:53
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Canadian Urban Forest Network<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CANUFNET]
Municipal tree ownership/responsibility<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Alex<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In
Ontario you should consider Section 10 of the Forestry Act.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=headnote-e>Boundary trees<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=section-e><A name=P58_7221></A><A name=s10s1></A><B><A
title=http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s1
href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s1"
target=_top>10.</A></B><A
title=http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s1
href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s1"
target=_top> (1)</A> An owner of land may, with the consent of the
owner of adjoining land, plant trees on the boundary between the two lands.
1998, c. 18, Sched. I, s. 21.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=headnote-e>Trees common property<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=subsection-e><A name=P60_7410></A><A name=s10s2></A><A
title=http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s2
href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s2"
target=_top>(2)</A> Every tree whose trunk is growing on the boundary
between adjoining lands is the common property of the owners of the adjoining
lands. 1998, c. 18, Sched. I, s. 21.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=headnote-e>Offence<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=subsection-e><A name=P62_7591></A><A name=s10s3></A><A
title=http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s3
href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/french/elaws_statutes_90f26_f.htm#s10s3"
target=_top>(3)</A> Every person who injures or destroys a tree growing on
the boundary between adjoining lands without the consent of the land owners is
guilty of an offence under this Act. 1998, c. 18, Sched. I, s.
21.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Terry<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Terry
Schwan, R.P.F., M. Sc.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">District
Forester</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Guelph
District</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ministry
of Natural Resources</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">One
Stone Road West</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Guelph,
Ontario</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=FR-CA> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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lang=FR-CA>Phone: 519-826-4933</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"
lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=FR-CA>Fax: 519-826-4929</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"
lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=FR-CA>Email: terry.schwan@ontario.ca</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"
lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
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lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Alex Satel<BR><B>Sent:</B> December 14, 2011 2:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Canufnet'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CANUFNET] Municipal tree
ownership/responsibility</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I am interested to know how your community determines tree
ownership and assigns responsibility for maintenance, particularly with regard
to street trees. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Many communities operate on the principle that if 50% or more
of the stem is on public property, the tree is a City asset and a municipal
responsibility. Does your community work differently? If so, do you maintain
street trees if less than 50% of the stem is on municipal land, or if only if
the tree is wholly on City property? Has your community at any point
transitioned from one approach to another, and if so, did that significantly
change the workload for your forestry crews?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Any insights into this issue would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your consideration, and best wishes for the holidays.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>--Alex<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Alex Satel,
MFC<BR></SPAN></B><I><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ISA Certified
Arborist ON-1353A<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Urban Forest
Innovations Inc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">1248 Minnewaska
Trail<BR>Mississauga, ON L5G 3S5<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">T: (905)
274-1022<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">C: (416)
452-8054<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #31849b; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="mailto:asatel@ufis.ca"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #31849b">asatel@ufis.ca</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #31849b; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="http://www.urbanforestinnovations.com/"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #31849b">http://www.urbanforestinnovations.com</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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