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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For ash trees that are physiologically, structurally and economically treatable (for instance for the trees larger than 20 cm. DBH, with good condition
 rating and less than about 30% die back). I think we should discount the cost of treatment from
<b>basic value</b> of the tree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For trees that are not physiologically, structurally and economically treatable (either size or condition or structure is the constraint), I suggest
 to consider a new tree replacement cost (minimum 60 mm. caliper) as the value of the tree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Infested ash trees with EAB should be considered dead.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> canufnet-bounces@list.web.net [mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vince Rutter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 03, 2012 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Canadian Urban Forest Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CANUFNET] Ash tree appraisal - do you discount?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think that you cannot discount the species value because of EAB but you may need to discount the value of the tree by the cost of preventative treatments over a reasonable amount of years.  For example a $5,000 ash tree should perhaps
 be devalued by the cost of Treeazin treatments over ten years.  If treatments cost $300/2years, the tree's value may be $3,500.  <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I devalued a birch tree that I assessed to account for cost of treatment to address a bronze birch borer infestation.  Very similar.  Although the report didn't see a court of law it was accepted by the insurance companies.  <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there were no treatment options for EAB, it would be a different situation i think.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Vince Rutter, RPF<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rutter Urban Forestry LTD.<br>
Thunder Bay Ontario<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Alex Satel <<a href="mailto:asatel@ufis.ca">asatel@ufis.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA">A question for anyone who is involved in preparing/reviewing CTLA-based appraisals (e.g., trunk formula method) of ash trees:
<b><i>How have you considered Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) in your valuations of healthy looking ash?</i></b>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA">It would be interesting to see if there is some consensus about how to proceed; should we start discounting the species ratings because ‘all ash are doomed’?
 Or should we still consider each tree on its individual merits and outwardly-visible condition, even though it may already be infested and not yet showing symptoms? How do we account for the fact that many (if not most) ash trees will become liabilities once
 infested/dead? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA">Personally, I am somewhat hesitant to start discounting still-healthy trees because of susceptibility to a pest (after all, many elms have survived), but it is
 generally accepted that we will lose most of our urban ash trees, and this may be fair to consider that when assessing value.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA">Any thoughts and experiences would be greatly appreciated.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt">Alex Satel, MFC<br>
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Vince Rutter, RPF<br>
ISA Certified Arborist<br>
<a href="http://www.rutterurbanforestry.ca">www.rutterurbanforestry.ca</a><br>
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