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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In Vancouver and other larger municipalities, we have made progress incorporating soil volume specs into our Engineering standards.
We often solve this using “engineered soil” – aka structural soil (we’re not supposed to use that name) and/or silva cells. Some developers just do it, others resist. The money is there with real estate markets these days. You can solve a lot of things
with enough money.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A current struggle for us right now is getting new buildings set back sufficiently that there’s room for existing or new trees. That,
and the ongoing issue of engineers’ and planners’ rosy expectations of what you can build in proximity to trees and still keep them healthy. We have tons more educational effort ahead of us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Naomi Zurcher via CANUFNET<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 4, 2021 11:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet@list.web.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Naomi Zurcher <treerap@sprintmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [CANUFNET] Trees and boulevards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Philip - as I had indicated, I thought this should at least be possible with Public Infrastructure projects.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it being required for projects on public lands?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ha ha ha….entirely possible but who will impose that and enforce it on the development community?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In my experience the development community has an inordinate amount of sway over municipalities and things related to development. Until that changes, these things will remain
“possible” but will not be implemented…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<<a href="mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net">canufnet-bounces@list.web.net</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Naomi Zurcher via CANUFNET<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>October 4, 2021 10:08 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Naomi Zurcher <<a href="mailto:treerap@sprintmail.com">treerap@sprintmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [CANUFNET] Trees and boulevards</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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This should be entirely possible at least on public infrastructure projects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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curbs and streets in a neighborhood, as well as adding missing infrastructure. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In our oldest neighborhoods I feel that trees growing in boulevards with separate sidewalks (curb on one side, sidewalk on the other side of the tree) have not really been
impacted by the perceived restricted growing area, with the exception of roots literally engulfing curbs or overlapping sidewalks. I believe that the reason for this is that the construction standards that were in place decades ago (between neighborhood establishment and
the time the sidewalk was last replaced) allowed for the construction of sidewalks on top of organic soil. So, in most cases, the trees had little challenge accessing soil beyond the boulevard. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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remove all of the precious topsoil from the land before building a new subdivision, then bring back enough topsoil to support the new sod. In these cases, regardless of the sidewalk design (mono or seperate) the trees do not have enough soil volume to support
them. We do amend soil volumes with trenches in separate boulevards, but these are trenches in clay with still inadequate soil volumes. So my point is, depending on construction practices and standards, the configuration of the sidewalks in relation to the
trees may have less impact on soil growing space than we think. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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fewer infrastructure / tree conflicts. This means that we will minimize tree related damages to infrastructure and construction related damages to trees in order to maintain that infrastructure. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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boulevard behind a monolithic sidewalk (sidewalk up against the curb and planting area next to the property) generally do better. They have access to more soil volume in the front yard, they get more water and the boulevard is tidier since the homeowner treats
it like part of their yard. Also fewer issues with roots lifting sidewalks. Some of our staff prefer the separated treed boulevard, for various reasons. Note, I’m not talking about busier roads where the trees in boulevards help to form a barrier from traffic.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We don’t have a lot of good examples here that directly show a comparison. Does anybody have some photos that might show the performance of trees on one side of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Below is an example that doesn’t exactly show this, but it does show the value of soil volume, with the trees on the left side being able to access the lawn area
behind the sidewalk, vs. the trees in “coffins” on the right. These are lindens planted at the same time.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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