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<div class="">Top down doesn’t happen. Vice-principal or vice-rector of academic studies and some deans of other budget competing programs vote at special assembly. Deans directly involved with the
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">almost irreconcilable </span>choice or result are informed and they must prepare for the worst, with vice deans, research staff, department directors, professors and student associations.
Try to find ways to save what they feel is worth their certified accredited curricula, then they go back to the top several times and are held responsible for misconduct of professoral affairs and student affairs in their faculty. This is a somewhat large
spectrum I can only refer to from my past experiences up and until 2014. Nevertheless, fifteen years of severe cuts, lost funding, lost endowment return, 2002 technology crash, 2008 commercial papers, no return on financial portfolios and endowment funds pay
outs where the beginning of the millennia political, professional, educational, downfall. Soft science they say doesn’t pay !!!! </div>
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<div class="">I strongly believe that the economics of all sciences, is what will make industry perform and vision should be wide as a cone vision with focus of course, but not only hard science.</div>
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<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;" class="">Thank you for the additional information.</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;" class="">I sense administration is carte blanche trying to get Doug Ford, leader of the Conservative Party in Ontario, attention respecting the chronic under funding according to the Colleges and
Universities who have set up overseas contacts for student induction to make up for the shortfall in funding over the last decade or so. Along with all the other additional hiring of staff/costs of integration and society norms exposure for the foreign students
to acclimatize them to Canada.</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;" class=""> And the Federal Government due to he significant reduction of student applications in Canada due to he the "affordable housing crisis".</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;" class="">Unfortunately it seems the future of many environmental causes in Canada and abroad are now in question as other institutions I sense would not implement new courses to make up for those
lost ones for at least 12 to 18 months, even with out any feasibility studies.</span></p>
<p class="">The voting structure may have be challenged by either board members were not advised om the seriousness or they recused themselves from this action. I have not heard of the Board resigning over this decision. </p>
<p class=""> I guess it is time to get the Board members names and emails for follow-up on how they came to this wide ranging and impacting decision? </p>
<p class="">Unfortunately in my experience the bean counters seem to run the academic world now, at the cost to society in the long term.</p>
<p class="">Thoughts?</p>
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<div class="">From what is available on the news, it seems there were some members excluded from the board, all colleges and universities must have all, at the same timely meeting, representatives including one or more voted professor casting for the programs
and representatives of or more student association representing different programs. Otherwise the vote of any committee can be nulled.</div>
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<div class="">Something very loyal to Roberts Rule/ governance/ equity / ethics and protocoles must be made receivable by all nominated groups on that board. My knowledge maybe questioned, many points are ethically questionnable on behalf of Governors. The
Board cannot rule without consent of all representatives in a same time and place.</div>
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<div class="">Le 30 avr. 2024 à 15:48, Peter Wynnyczuk <<a href="mailto:peter.wynnyczuk@sympatico.ca" class=""><span class="wt_Email">peter.wynnyczuk@sympatico.ca</span></a>> a écrit :</div>
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<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">Thank you for adding clarity to the private partnerships and academic institutions roles. Based on the correspondence provided, it is not clear on who decided these private partnerships
longer exist?</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">As "Urban Forestry" is in my opinion, a bit out of the mainstream for serious corporate funding in our Canadian Academic world, speaking of my Ontario experience. The suspension of the
Fleming courses may have less of a private funding impact, as I am not aware of any long term projects.</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">I sense in the next week or so, there will be more
</span>discussions<span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class=""> and direction by the College.</span></p>
<p class="">I guess we can do our part as more information becomes available.</p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">Sincerely,</span></p>
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<div class="">Private partnership may come from corporations, associations, foundations or individual donors for research grants, research contracts or endowment funds for observatories, laboratories and chairs. Terms are often associated for renewal of funding
intentions. Thus 5 years. When and if endowment funds were capitalized by the college, the the initial intention for allowing endowment must be protected during the life of donors. They must be informed, they must all agree for their funds to be transfers
elsewhere in line as much as possible with the initial protocol.</div>
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<div class="">Should the college have such donors for specific use of yielded dollars in the fields that we are concerned about, the the college must be absolutely transparent, reveal to all research beneficiaries and/or recipients and donors where the funds
are going, why, when, how and for what. </div>
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<div class="">One question comes to mind, what will happen to teaching and support staff, research reports, private or public? </div>
<div class=""> The are answers the institution charity patent must be ready to clarify and report otherwise it can loose its patent. Considering the number of programs at stake, the could be large amounts of donations to manage on a donor priority. Donors have
the absolute right to transfer left over sums of past donations to or for purposes in line with their initial intent. The related committees and port folio management must take action, vote and also respect the donors original purpose for granting. Get their
permission to use the investment in a different protocole or refund the donor. What about awards and scholarships in the fields we are concerned ? Are there some at that college in programs we are interested in ?</div>
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<p class="">The gist of the correspondence I saw is:</p>
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<li class="">international students caps by the federal government,</li><li class="">one I am not clear on ,"elimination of educational private partnerships", was this mandated to be dissolved by level of government? </li><li class=""> program reviews were accelerated and in review of the Government of Ontario direction, keeping courses/programs "that they will support as well as consider labour market demand, regional needs and demographics". </li><li class="">all current courses are to be completed with their current enrollments</li><li class="">other factors, not in the correspondence are likely reduced enrollment in these now suspended programs.<br class="">
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<p class="">I sense this now requires the Arboricultural/Urban Forestry industry to step up and voice their concerns to the College. There is an online petition as noted elsewhere. </p>
<p class="">This may be a start, by the petition. but timely correspondence from all Urban Forestry/Arboriculture/Landscaping/Architects/Planners/Lawyers/Engineers with their related associations and councils could be critical to the discussion noting the
number of participants in our industry, the breadth and scope of the players involved and future expectations of attrition and expected participants, along with the current gaps</p>
<p class="">As mentioned earlier as more attention is being paid by municipalities to the Urban Forest by Polices and Bylaws we need competent and qualified participants to carry the torch for the discussion on trees</p>
<p class="">Hope this helps.</p>
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<div class="">When were the courses suspended and why?</div>
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<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">Very recently Fleming College has suspended the courses listed below. </span></p>
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<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">Do you think this will have a negative impact on Arboriculture and Urban Forestry in Canada? </span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">As many municipalities have and are seeking greater canopy cover targets through tree policies and Bylaws, can this further weaken the voice for the trees?</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">I was fortunate be involved in Urban forestry in the GTHA for over 45 years in various capacities and able to present a course on Urban Forestry in the Municipal Context for 10 years until
April 2023 at Fleming College and am concerned we have lost significant opportunities for engaging students in our industry to help with succession and future leaders in the Urban forest.</span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">Please let me know if you have any concerns on the impacts related to our environment by the loss of these courses and enrollment benefiting our green industry.</span></p>
<p class="">There may be a need to create support for reinstatement of the Urban Forestry courses</p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12.0pt;" class="">Sincerely,</span></p>
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