<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">As Julian states, do leave some extra room for the aluminum nail to accommodate outward growth of the tree.<div>Whether using aluminum or plastic tags, if the tree encapsulates the tag / nail, then the tree cutter's</div><div>chainsaw will not be damaged.</div><div><br></div><div>I prefer bright tags placed at least a couple of metres</div><div>above ground to deter vandalism, which I have found to be a very rare occurrence. Some arborists</div><div>prefer green tags nailed close to the base of the tree. Either way, you want to make sure that the</div><div>tag identifies a tree for retention versus removal. </div><div><br></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style="font-kerning: none">Best,</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; color: rgb(9, 79, 209);"><span style="text-decoration: underline ; font-kerning: none"><a href="http://www.jpmtree.com/">www.jpmtree.com</a></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; color: rgb(11, 54, 198); min-height: 21px;"><span style="font-kerning: none"></span></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; color: rgb(5, 0, 116); min-height: 21px;"><span style="font-kerning: none"></span></p><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 23, 2024, at 9:00 AM, canufnet-request@list.web.net wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Send CANUFNET mailing list submissions to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>canufnet@list.web.net<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>https://list.web.net/lists/listinfo/canufnet<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>canufnet-request@list.web.net<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>canufnet-owner@list.web.net<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of CANUFNET digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Nailing Trees (Peter Shields)<br> 2. Re: Nailing Trees (Julian Dunster)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 15:58:34 +0000<br>From: Peter Shields <peter.shields1@hotmail.com><br>To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet@list.web.net><br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br>Message-ID:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><DM4PR10MB6181F425707949DB74332F15CAA82@DM4PR10MB6181.namprd10.prod.outlook.com><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br><br>Hi Bogdan,<br><br>I have been on projects where GPS alone does not suffice. Some field marking is required to allow "others" such as construction teams to find a reference point. These fellas often cannot id a tree. In urban streets and small residential properties, tags are usually not needed.<br>Some rural sites, forested sites, and the like, field landmarks are needed. I would sometimes at the least tag some for that reference, but certainly not all. A little location descriptor can aid.<br>Not sure about the teaching part though...I think there is minimal impact, if any, to the tree, and if left long enough, can last for so many years<br><br>Cheers,<br>Peter<br><br><br>________________________________<br>From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net> on behalf of Michael Richardson via CANUFNET <canufnet@list.web.net><br>Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 10:55:23 a.m.<br>To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet@list.web.net><br>Cc: Michael Richardson <mrtree@kos.net><br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br><br>I am dealing with one site, 6 years in the process now, where homeless are<br>ripping the original tags from the trees and we are required to replace<br>them. Perhaps the municipality is the answer to the question, along with<br>Stephen Smith's answer.<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">I also think that removing the tags would do more damage to the tree than<br>letting them be grown over if they???re already starting to be embedded.<br><br><br><br>Stephen Smith<br><br>Urban Forest Associates<br><br>Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration<br><br>www.ufora.ca<http://www.ufora.ca><br><br>Office/fax 416-423-3387<br><br>Cell 416-707-2164<br><br><br><br>From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net> On Behalf Of Mark Carroll<br>via CANUFNET<br>Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 9:54 AM<br>To: Stephen Smith via CANUFNET <canufnet@list.web.net><br>Cc: Mark Carroll <environment1st@rogers.com><br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br><br><br><br>Often projects will be ongoing for years. Tags can be left on until they<br>are absorbed into the tree. If the tag and the records for the tag are<br>always held, then the tag can be used for reference in other monitoring<br>concerns. Use the tag for everything. Size, canopy cover, appraisals,<br>whatever your imagination will drum up. Don't ignore tags just because the<br>original project is completed. Start another project and use the number.<br><br><br><br>Warmest Regards,<br><br>Mark Carroll<br><br>ISA Certified Arborist/Consultant<br><br>Certified Lab Tech, Soil Biology<br><br>Biologically-Complete Compost Specialist<br><br><br><br>Dirt to Soil Inc.<br><br>Biological Solutions to Growing and Caring For Plants<br><br>Where the Symphony of Soil Health Resonates. Join us on a journey to<br>revive the earth beneath your feet, embracing a regenerative dance with<br>nature. Through our innovative biological solutions, we breathe life back<br>into the soil naturally. Together, lets revive and nurture vibrant<br>ecosystems where plants thrive naturally!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 09:17:07 a.m. EDT, Stephen Smith via CANUFNET<br><canufnet@list.web.net <mailto:canufnet@list.web.net> > wrote:<br><br><br><br><br><br>Who pays the arborist to come back after the project is done to remove<br>them? Public projects often go on for years.<br><br><br><br>Stephen Smith<br><br>Urban Forest Associates<br><br>Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration<br><br>www.ufora.ca<http://www.ufora.ca> <http://www.ufora.ca><br><br>Office/fax 416-423-3387<br><br>Cell 416-707-2164<br><br><br><br>From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net<br><mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net> > On Behalf Of Bohdan Kowalyk via<br>CANUFNET<br>Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:59 PM<br>To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet@list.web.net<br><mailto:canufnet@list.web.net> ><br>Cc: Bohdan Kowalyk <bohdan.kowalyk@gmail.com<br><mailto:bohdan.kowalyk@gmail.com> ><br>Subject: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br><br><br><br>Hello,<br><br><br><br>Just wondering, where and who teaches arborists that nailing tags into<br>trees and not removing them is a "best management practice (see photo).<br><br><br><br>Bohdan<br><br><br><br><br><br><br></blockquote><br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://list.web.net/pipermail/canufnet/attachments/20240722/5f06ac86/attachment-0001.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:20:21 -0700<br>From: Julian Dunster <jadunster@gmail.com><br>To: canufnet@list.web.net<br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br>Message-ID: <986c7352-09af-4ee0-b5d5-1b103625c1ba@gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br><br>I agree with Peter.<br><br>No tags is a recipe for disaster as many other people will not have <br>access to GIS and even a scaled survey plan is often confusing when <br>there are dozens of trees. A well placed tag on a 4 inch long? nail set <br>in to the tree by one inch allows for lots of growth, and with the tag <br>at the end of the nail, it will last for maybe ten years? (assuming the <br>squirrels don't attack it) - often the length of time between starting a <br>project and getting to completion on the west coast.<br><br>Yours sincerely,<br><br>On Behalf of Dunster and Associates Environmental Consultants Ltd.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Dr. Julian A Dunster R.P.F., R.P.P.., M.C.I.P., ISA Certified Arborist,<br>ASCA Registered Consulting Arborist # 378,<br>ISA Tree Risk Assessment Qualified<br>Honourary Life Member ISA + PNWISA<br><br>www.dunster.ca<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>www.treelaw.info<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>North American distributor for Rinntechwww.rinntech.info<br><br>On Mon/7/22/2024 8:58 AM, Peter Shields via CANUFNET wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Bogdan,<br><br>I have been on projects where GPS alone does not suffice. Some field <br>marking is required to allow "others" such as construction teams to <br>find a reference point. These fellas often cannot id a tree.? In urban <br>streets and small residential properties, tags are usually not needed.<br>Some rural sites, forested sites, and the like, field landmarks are <br>needed. I would sometimes at the least tag some for that reference, <br>but certainly not all. A little location descriptor can aid.<br>Not sure about the teaching part though...I think there is minimal <br>impact, if any, to the tree, and if left long enough, can last for so <br>many years<br><br>Cheers,<br>Peter<br><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>*From:* CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net> on behalf of Michael <br>Richardson via CANUFNET <canufnet@list.web.net><br>*Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2024 10:55:23 a.m.<br>*To:* Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet@list.web.net><br>*Cc:* Michael Richardson <mrtree@kos.net><br>*Subject:* Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br><br>I am dealing with one site, 6 years in the process now, where homeless are<br>ripping the original tags from the trees and we are required to replace<br>them.? Perhaps the municipality is the answer to the question, along with<br>Stephen Smith's answer.<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">I also think that removing the tags would do more damage to the tree <br></blockquote>than<br><blockquote type="cite">letting them be grown over if they???re already starting to be embedded.<br><br><br><br>Stephen Smith<br><br>Urban Forest Associates<br><br>Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration<br><br>www.ufora.ca <http://www.ufora.ca><br><br>Office/fax 416-423-3387<br><br>Cell 416-707-2164<br><br><br><br>From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net> On Behalf Of Mark Carroll<br>via CANUFNET<br>Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 9:54 AM<br>To: Stephen Smith via CANUFNET <canufnet@list.web.net><br>Cc: Mark Carroll <environment1st@rogers.com><br>Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br><br><br><br>Often projects will be ongoing for years. Tags can be left on until they<br>are absorbed into the tree. If the tag and the records for the tag are<br>always held, then the tag can be used for reference in other monitoring<br>concerns. Use the tag for everything. Size, canopy cover, appraisals,<br>whatever your imagination will drum up. Don't ignore tags just <br></blockquote>because the<br><blockquote type="cite">original project is completed. Start another project and use the number.<br><br><br><br>Warmest Regards,<br><br>Mark Carroll<br><br>ISA Certified Arborist/Consultant<br><br>Certified Lab Tech, Soil Biology<br><br>Biologically-Complete Compost Specialist<br><br><br><br>Dirt to Soil Inc.<br><br>Biological Solutions to Growing and Caring For Plants<br><br>Where the Symphony of Soil Health Resonates. Join us on a journey to<br>revive the earth beneath your feet, embracing a regenerative dance with<br>nature. Through our innovative biological solutions, we breathe life <br></blockquote>back<br><blockquote type="cite">into the soil naturally. Together, lets revive and nurture vibrant<br>ecosystems where plants thrive naturally!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 09:17:07 a.m. EDT, Stephen Smith via <br></blockquote>CANUFNET<br><blockquote type="cite"><canufnet@list.web.net <mailto:canufnet@list.web.net <br></blockquote><mailto:canufnet@list.web.net>> > wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><br><br><br>Who pays the arborist to come back after the project is done to remove<br>them? Public projects often go on for years.<br><br><br><br>Stephen Smith<br><br>Urban Forest Associates<br><br>Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration<br><br>www.ufora.ca <http://www.ufora.ca> <http://www.ufora.ca><br><br>Office/fax 416-423-3387<br><br>Cell 416-707-2164<br><br><br><br>From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces@list.web.net<br><mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net <br></blockquote><mailto:canufnet-bounces@list.web.net>> > On Behalf Of Bohdan Kowalyk via<br><blockquote type="cite">CANUFNET<br>Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:59 PM<br>To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet@list.web.net<br><mailto:canufnet@list.web.net <mailto:canufnet@list.web.net>> ><br>Cc: Bohdan Kowalyk <bohdan.kowalyk@gmail.com<br><mailto:bohdan.kowalyk@gmail.com <mailto:bohdan.kowalyk@gmail.com>> ><br>Subject: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees<br><br><br><br>Hello,<br><br><br><br>Just wondering, where and who teaches arborists that nailing tags into<br>trees and not removing them is a "best management practice (see photo).<br><br><br><br>Bohdan<br><br><br><br><br><br><br></blockquote><br><br><br></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://list.web.net/pipermail/canufnet/attachments/20240722/93e0ed52/attachment-0001.htm><br><br>End of CANUFNET Digest, Vol 232, Issue 13<br>*****************************************<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>