[CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
Naomi Zurcher
treerap at sprintmail.com
Wed Nov 23 09:01:07 EST 2016
Hi All:
Just a reminder that the "horse" chestnut tree that we plant in North America - Aesculus hypocastanum - does not have an edible nuts for humans, If I'm not mistaken, the European chestnut - Castania saliva - is subject to the same Chestnut blight fungal disease as the American chestnut - Castane dentata - and so cannot be grown on our continent.
Thanks
Naomi
On Nov 22, 2016, at 4:44 PM, "Taylor, Kim (MNRF)" <Kim.C.Taylor at ontario.ca> wrote:
> Hell0:
>
> Some thoughts:
>
> - Nut trees are lovely trees to plant. As nut trees, they will produce nuts. If they are thrown at someone, it will not feel good. Learning not to throw things (self control) is part of growing up. My school yard in PEI had a horse chestnut tree. Yes, chestnuts were thrown, but, eventually by the end of the year, they were not being thrown. Kids are trainable...well sort of :)
>
>
> - When you choose your nut tree, choose one native to your local area (your ecoDistrict). Don't plant an alien or an out of range species. This way you will maintain the ecological integrity of your area and increase your silvicultural success as you will be planting something suitable to your location.
>
> - If you plant a nut tree you are likely planting a wildlife tree (providing) food for birds and mammals. This is positive.
>
> - Choose a nut tree species which is adapted to your soil/ light and competition conditions.
>
> - When you plant a tree you are doing a wonderful thing, great that you are doing this.
>
> Take care,
>
> Kim
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of Jim McCready
> Sent: November-22-16 3:43 PM
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>
> Mark/ Michael
> I agree folks are too careful these days. Is a "Conker" the same as a "dony-wacker". That is what we used to call them in Toronto growing up. Yes they did hurt but we all survived.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 2:30 PM, "Burleton, Mark" <mark.burleton at ncc-ccn.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree Michael. I not sure any child would know a "conker"
>> these days, and has any one tried eating one it's not easy! I
>> survived. MB
>>
>> Original Message
>> From: Michael Richardson
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>> Reply To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET
>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>
>> I think that suggesting that horse chestnuts can seriously harm people
>> and animals is a little bit of scare mongering. I have no doubt people
>> are injured but on top of battling with nuts and conkers as a child I
>> was also injured falling off bikes, falling out of trees, playing
>> sports, fighting, falling off playground equipment, etc. I imagine the
>> risk of injury is far less from a marauding Horse Chestnut than running across the street.
>>
>> Horse chestnut is just another tree to apply "the right tree in the
>> right place".
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>> This species if not welcomed anymore near city and public areas, the
>>> spiked shell is dangerous and can harm someone seriously if thrown
>>> vigorously at a person or an animal.
>>>
>>> If I mentioned this species in my reply, it pertained as an answer on
>>> nut bearing trees in different areas.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Elaine Ethier
>>> Plani Gester
>>> Aménagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>
>>>> Le 22 nov. 2016 à 11:07, Barker John <jbarker at lallemand.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Dear Hank,
>>>>
>>>> Please note that if you are planting for edible nuts Aesculus
>>>> hippocastanum (horse chestnut) is not edible. The seeds resemble
>>>> chestnuts (the fruit from Castanea sativa, which is unrelated to
>>>> horse chestnut), but horse chestnut seeds contain toxins. Squirrels
>>>> seem to be able to eat horse chestnut seeds, but they cause illness
>>>> in humans if eaten.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> E. John Barker, MFC | Urban Forest Health Specialist ISA Certified
>>>> Arborist ON-2096A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of
>>>> Hank Jones
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:02 PM
>>>> To: CUFN
>>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest,
>>>> Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Elaine and Alice for your guidance :-) The trees you
>>>> mention are all edibles, and some rough idea of numbers would be
>>>> most welcome. I will contact Hudson, McGill/MacDonald and the others
>>>> to drill down, to see if I can get some idea of how many trees may
>>>> be known. Hank
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>>>>> 1. Re: Urban nut being trees (Ethier Elaine)
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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:06:49 +0000
>>>>> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
>>>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban nut being trees
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>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Quite a few around churches and old cemeteries. The town of Hudson
>>>>> area in Qu?bec (151 years) has quite a few nut trees planted by
>>>>> settlers and since growing from seed on private and public land ;
>>>>> Juglan nigra (a provincial Champion), Juglan cinerea, Quercus
>>>>> macrocarpa, Quercus rubra (the biggest specimen in the province,
>>>>> DHP 206cm was documented a few weeks ago) etc. Some rare nut trees
>>>>> in STE-Anne de Bellevue along Lake St-Louis, Juglan cinerea at
>>>>> Tatja Hall near the MacDonald campus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some are remarquable and are Heritage. The Morgan arboretum in
>>>>> Senneville, managed by McGill university has many nut trees. So
>>>>> does the Montreal Botanical Gardens. The Town of Oka, near the
>>>>> Ferry landing and the church, have several Aesculus hippocastanus,
>>>>> [image1.JPG]
>>>>>
>>>>> A great White Pine forest with several great Royal eagle couples as
>>>>> well as some Great Bald eagles.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an association to look at : http://www.noixduquebec.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>>> Plani Gester
>>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 21 nov. 2016 ? 09:57, Alice Casselman
>>>>> <alice.casselman37 at gmail.com<mailto:alice.casselman37 at gmail.com>> a
>>>>> ?crit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out re school yards - i.e. I understand that toronto has
>>>>> stopped planting nut trees due to allergies - e.g. kids eating the
>>>>> nuts also a private home owners removed an oak tree because it
>>>>> dropped acorns on his car!
>>>>> so public green spaces may be best bet Alice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Hank Jones
>>>>> <acorn at treenuts.ca<mailto:acorn at treenuts.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear CUFN, I seek lists of nut bearing tree species found growing
>>>>> in Canada?s urban forests. Any pointers? Hank
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