[CANUFNET] Urban Nut Trees Re: CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 14

Cathy MacKenzie cathy.mackenzie at cord.bc.ca
Wed Nov 23 16:55:02 EST 2016


HI Hank

Check out the Gellatly Nut Farm Regional Park. It is a working nut farm dating back to the early 1900's. The Gellatly's experimented with nut growing and breeding with the objective to develop cultivars that combined high quality nuts with hardiness for Canadian climes. The Gellatly Nut Farm became the cradle of hardy nut growing and breeding in North America and you can find Gellatly cultivars all over the country as well as other areas of the world (USA, China, UK etc). It is now a Regional Park in the Central Okanagan.  You will find information on numerous edible species on the website.

http://www.regionaldistrict.com/your-services/parks-services/parks-and-trails/7-gellatly-nut-farm-regional-park.aspx

Regards


Cathy MacKenzie, RPF - Parks Natural Resource Technician

Parks Services
Regional District of Central Okanagan


-----Original Message-----
From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of Hank Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:40 AM
To: CUFN
Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Nut Trees Re: CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 14

Thanks all for your discourses and information on nut bearing trees growing in Canada’s urban forests. My project goal in asking is to assay what population numbers by species there might be across the country. My objectives are to see our urban forests dominated by these species, so we can add ‘food’ to the many values urban trees already bring to city life, and have residents eating them up. I see our urban forests as becoming full-fledged agroforests.
I am concerned, too, about those nut species whose fruits may be unpalatable or even toxic. Every city dweller should know all these nut species and their respective merits and uses, and treasure them for their strengths while being wary of their shortcomings. 
I feel urgency in this mission, with runaway abrupt climate change nipping at our heels. (BTW, I believe there are scores of nut species eligible for our urban forests - and that building the highest diversity is essential! http://treenuts.ca/canadatreenuts.html ) I also am worried about which species, if any, will grow well in the new urban climates ahead. In 1989 I suggested that we needed to bring species from warmer climes to here, in order to still have forests if our natives trees bit the dust. I note the idea finally catching on, some 25 years later, as ‘assisted migration’ http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/forests/climate-change/adaptation/13121
I am grateful that Kat Siks of Ottawa’s hidden harvest http://ottawa.hiddenharvest.ca/contact/ is helping me connect with like-minded folks in some of Canada’s major cities. I will send all a brief questionnaire to help them provide more easily the kinds of information I feel I need. One question will be: “What nut bearing trees are found in your urban tree inventories?”
I coordinate the facebook Canada Nutist https://www.facebook.com/Canada.Nutist/
Thanks again all for your information - keep it coming :-) Hank
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>      Issue 10 (Michael Richardson)
>   2. Re: Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141,
>      Issue 10 (Burleton, Mark)
>   3. Re: Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest,	Vol 141,
>      Issue 10 (Jim McCready)
>   4. Re: Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141,
>      Issue 10 (Ethier Elaine)
>   5. Re: Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141,
>      Issue 10 (Taylor, Kim (MNRF))
>   6. Re: Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest,	Vol 141,
>      Issue 10 (Naomi Zurcher)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 11:53:04 -0500
> From: "Michael Richardson" <mrtree at kos.net>
> To: "Canadian Urban Forest Network" <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET
> 	Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
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> I think that suggesting that horse chestnuts can seriously harm people 
> and animals is a little bit of scare mongering.  I have no doubt 
> people are injured but on top of battling with nuts and conkers as a 
> child I was also injured falling off bikes, falling out of trees, 
> playing sports, fighting, falling off playground equipment, etc.  I 
> imagine the risk of injury is far less from a marauding Horse Chestnut than running across the street.
> 
> Horse chestnut is just another tree to apply "the right tree in the 
> right place".
> 
> Michael
> 
>> This species if not welcomed anymore near city and public areas, the 
>> spiked shell is dangerous and can harm someone seriously if thrown 
>> vigorously at a person or an animal.
>> 
>> If I mentioned this species in my reply, it pertained as an answer on 
>> nut bearing trees in different areas.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> Elaine Ethier
>> Plani Gester
>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>> 
>>> Le 22 nov. 2016 ? 11:07, Barker John <jbarker at lallemand.com> a ?crit :
>>> 
>>> Dear Hank,
>>> 
>>> Please note that if you are planting for edible nuts Aesculus 
>>> hippocastanum (horse chestnut) is not edible. The seeds resemble 
>>> chestnuts (the fruit from Castanea sativa, which is unrelated to 
>>> horse chestnut), but horse chestnut seeds contain toxins. Squirrels 
>>> seem to be able to eat horse chestnut seeds, but they cause illness 
>>> in humans if eaten.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> E. John Barker, MFC  |  Urban Forest Health Specialist ISA Certified 
>>> Arborist ON-2096A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BioForest
>>> #8-180 Norseman Street, Toronto, ON M8Z 2R4
>>> 
>>> t. 705-942-5824 ext. 218  |  c. 905-466-6190  |  Toll Free
>>> 1-888-236-7378  |  f. 705-942-8829
>>> 
>>> www.BioForest.ca
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of 
>>> Hank Jones
>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:02 PM
>>> To: CUFN
>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest, 
>>> Vol 141, Issue 10
>>> 
>>> Thank you Elaine and Alice for your guidance :-) The trees you 
>>> mention are all edibles, and some rough idea of numbers would be 
>>> most welcome. I will contact Hudson, McGill/MacDonald and the others 
>>> to drill down, to see if I can get some idea of how many trees may 
>>> be known. Hank
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>>>> 1. Re: Urban nut being trees (Ethier Elaine)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:06:49 +0000
>>>> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
>>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban nut being trees
>>>> Message-ID: <2B3B81ED-5C80-462D-B4D9-B0226A60C37D at umontreal.ca>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Quite a few around churches and old cemeteries.  The town of Hudson 
>>>> area in Qu?bec (151 years) has quite a few nut trees planted by 
>>>> settlers and since growing from seed on private and public land ; 
>>>> Juglan nigra (a provincial Champion), Juglan cinerea, Quercus 
>>>> macrocarpa, Quercus rubra (the biggest specimen in the province, 
>>>> DHP 206cm was documented a few weeks ago) etc. Some rare nut trees 
>>>> in STE-Anne de Bellevue along Lake St-Louis, Juglan cinerea at 
>>>> Tatja Hall near the MacDonald campus.
>>>> 
>>>> Some are remarquable and are Heritage. The Morgan arboretum in 
>>>> Senneville, managed by McGill university has many nut trees. So 
>>>> does the Montreal Botanical  Gardens. The Town of Oka, near the 
>>>> Ferry landing and the church, have several Aesculus hippocastanus, 
>>>> [image1.JPG]
>>>> 
>>>> A great White Pine forest with several great Royal eagle couples as 
>>>> well as some Great Bald eagles.
>>>> 
>>>> There is an association to look at : http://www.noixduquebec.org/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>> Plani Gester
>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>> 
>>>> Le 21 nov. 2016 ? 09:57, Alice Casselman 
>>>> <alice.casselman37 at gmail.com<mailto:alice.casselman37 at gmail.com>> a 
>>>> ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>> Check out re  school yards - i.e. I understand that  toronto has 
>>>> stopped planting nut trees due to allergies  - e.g. kids eating the 
>>>> nuts also a  private home owners removed an oak tree because it 
>>>> dropped acorns on his car!
>>>> so public green spaces may be best bet Alice
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Hank Jones 
>>>> <acorn at treenuts.ca<mailto:acorn at treenuts.ca>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear CUFN, I seek lists of nut bearing tree species found growing 
>>>> in Canada?s urban forests. Any pointers? Hank
>>>> 
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> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:30:15 +0000
> From: "Burleton, Mark" <mark.burleton at ncc-ccn.ca>
> To: Michael Richardson <canufnet at list.web.net>, Canadian Urban Forest
> 	Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET
> 	Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
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> 
> ?I totally agree Michael. I not sure any child would know a "conker" these days, ?and has any one tried eating one it's not easy! I survived. MB?
> 
> ? Original Message ?
> From: Michael Richardson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:00 PM
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
> Reply To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
> 
> I think that suggesting that horse chestnuts can seriously harm people 
> and animals is a little bit of scare mongering. I have no doubt people 
> are injured but on top of battling with nuts and conkers as a child I 
> was also injured falling off bikes, falling out of trees, playing 
> sports, fighting, falling off playground equipment, etc. I imagine the 
> risk of injury is far less from a marauding Horse Chestnut than running across the street.
> 
> Horse chestnut is just another tree to apply "the right tree in the 
> right place".
> 
> Michael
> 
>> This species if not welcomed anymore near city and public areas, the 
>> spiked shell is dangerous and can harm someone seriously if thrown 
>> vigorously at a person or an animal.
>> 
>> If I mentioned this species in my reply, it pertained as an answer on 
>> nut bearing trees in different areas.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> Elaine Ethier
>> Plani Gester
>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>> 
>>> Le 22 nov. 2016 ? 11:07, Barker John <jbarker at lallemand.com> a ?crit :
>>> 
>>> Dear Hank,
>>> 
>>> Please note that if you are planting for edible nuts Aesculus 
>>> hippocastanum (horse chestnut) is not edible. The seeds resemble 
>>> chestnuts (the fruit from Castanea sativa, which is unrelated to 
>>> horse chestnut), but horse chestnut seeds contain toxins. Squirrels 
>>> seem to be able to eat horse chestnut seeds, but they cause illness 
>>> in humans if eaten.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> E. John Barker, MFC | Urban Forest Health Specialist ISA Certified 
>>> Arborist ON-2096A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BioForest
>>> #8-180 Norseman Street, Toronto, ON M8Z 2R4
>>> 
>>> t. 705-942-5824 ext. 218 | c. 905-466-6190 | Toll Free
>>> 1-888-236-7378 | f. 705-942-8829
>>> 
>>> www.BioForest.ca
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of 
>>> Hank Jones
>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:02 PM
>>> To: CUFN
>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET Digest, 
>>> Vol 141, Issue 10
>>> 
>>> Thank you Elaine and Alice for your guidance :-) The trees you 
>>> mention are all edibles, and some rough idea of numbers would be 
>>> most welcome. I will contact Hudson, McGill/MacDonald and the others 
>>> to drill down, to see if I can get some idea of how many trees may 
>>> be known. Hank
>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:42 PM, canufnet-request at list.web.net wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Re: Urban nut being trees (Ethier Elaine)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ---
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:06:49 +0000
>>>> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
>>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban nut being trees
>>>> Message-ID: <2B3B81ED-5C80-462D-B4D9-B0226A60C37D at umontreal.ca>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Quite a few around churches and old cemeteries. The town of Hudson 
>>>> area in Qu?bec (151 years) has quite a few nut trees planted by 
>>>> settlers and since growing from seed on private and public land ; 
>>>> Juglan nigra (a provincial Champion), Juglan cinerea, Quercus 
>>>> macrocarpa, Quercus rubra (the biggest specimen in the province, 
>>>> DHP 206cm was documented a few weeks ago) etc. Some rare nut trees 
>>>> in STE-Anne de Bellevue along Lake St-Louis, Juglan cinerea at 
>>>> Tatja Hall near the MacDonald campus.
>>>> 
>>>> Some are remarquable and are Heritage. The Morgan arboretum in 
>>>> Senneville, managed by McGill university has many nut trees. So 
>>>> does the Montreal Botanical Gardens. The Town of Oka, near the 
>>>> Ferry landing and the church, have several Aesculus hippocastanus, 
>>>> [image1.JPG]
>>>> 
>>>> A great White Pine forest with several great Royal eagle couples as 
>>>> well as some Great Bald eagles.
>>>> 
>>>> There is an association to look at : http://www.noixduquebec.org/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>> Plani Gester
>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>> 
>>>> Le 21 nov. 2016 ? 09:57, Alice Casselman 
>>>> <alice.casselman37 at gmail.com<mailto:alice.casselman37 at gmail.com>> a 
>>>> ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>> Check out re school yards - i.e. I understand that toronto has 
>>>> stopped planting nut trees due to allergies - e.g. kids eating the 
>>>> nuts also a private home owners removed an oak tree because it 
>>>> dropped acorns on his car!
>>>> so public green spaces may be best bet Alice
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Hank Jones 
>>>> <acorn at treenuts.ca<mailto:acorn at treenuts.ca>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear CUFN, I seek lists of nut bearing tree species found growing 
>>>> in Canada?s urban forests. Any pointers? Hank
>>>> 
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>>>> End of CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>> *****************************************
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:43:06 -0500
> From: Jim McCready <jdmccready at bell.net>
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET
> 	Digest,	Vol 141, Issue 10
> Message-ID: <2121FB8F-FFA9-4D0A-8EED-0971E86260B5 at bell.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
> 
> Mark/ Michael
> I agree folks are too careful these days. Is a "Conker" the same as a "dony-wacker". That is what we used to call them in Toronto growing up. Yes they did hurt but we all survived.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 2:30 PM, "Burleton, Mark" <mark.burleton at ncc-ccn.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I totally agree Michael. I not sure any child would know a "conker" 
>> these days,  and has any one tried eating one it's not easy! I 
>> survived. MB
>> 
>>  Original Message
>> From: Michael Richardson
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>> Reply To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>> 
>> I think that suggesting that horse chestnuts can seriously harm 
>> people and animals is a little bit of scare mongering. I have no 
>> doubt people are injured but on top of battling with nuts and conkers 
>> as a child I was also injured falling off bikes, falling out of 
>> trees, playing sports, fighting, falling off playground equipment, 
>> etc. I imagine the risk of injury is far less from a marauding Horse Chestnut than running across the street.
>> 
>> Horse chestnut is just another tree to apply "the right tree in the 
>> right place".
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>>> This species if not welcomed anymore near city and public areas, the 
>>> spiked shell is dangerous and can harm someone seriously if thrown 
>>> vigorously at a person or an animal.
>>> 
>>> If I mentioned this species in my reply, it pertained as an answer 
>>> on nut bearing trees in different areas.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> Elaine Ethier
>>> Plani Gester
>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>> 
>>>> Le 22 nov. 2016 ? 11:07, Barker John <jbarker at lallemand.com> a ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Hank,
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that if you are planting for edible nuts Aesculus 
>>>> hippocastanum (horse chestnut) is not edible. The seeds resemble 
>>>> chestnuts (the fruit from Castanea sativa, which is unrelated to 
>>>> horse chestnut), but horse chestnut seeds contain toxins. Squirrels 
>>>> seem to be able to eat horse chestnut seeds, but they cause illness 
>>>> in humans if eaten.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> E. John Barker, MFC | Urban Forest Health Specialist ISA Certified 
>>>> Arborist ON-2096A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BioForest
>>>> #8-180 Norseman Street, Toronto, ON M8Z 2R4
>>>> 
>>>> t. 705-942-5824 ext. 218 | c. 905-466-6190 | Toll Free
>>>> 1-888-236-7378 | f. 705-942-8829
>>>> 
>>>> www.BioForest.ca
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Hank Jones
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:02 PM
>>>> To: CUFN
>>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>>>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Elaine and Alice for your guidance :-) The trees you 
>>>> mention are all edibles, and some rough idea of numbers would be 
>>>> most welcome. I will contact Hudson, McGill/MacDonald and the 
>>>> others to drill down, to see if I can get some idea of how many 
>>>> trees may be known. Hank
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:42 PM, canufnet-request at list.web.net wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Send CANUFNET mailing list submissions to canufnet at list.web.net
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Re: Urban nut being trees (Ethier Elaine)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ----
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:06:49 +0000
>>>>> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
>>>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban nut being trees
>>>>> Message-ID: <2B3B81ED-5C80-462D-B4D9-B0226A60C37D at umontreal.ca>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Quite a few around churches and old cemeteries. The town of Hudson 
>>>>> area in Qu?bec (151 years) has quite a few nut trees planted by 
>>>>> settlers and since growing from seed on private and public land ; 
>>>>> Juglan nigra (a provincial Champion), Juglan cinerea, Quercus 
>>>>> macrocarpa, Quercus rubra (the biggest specimen in the province, 
>>>>> DHP 206cm was documented a few weeks ago) etc. Some rare nut trees 
>>>>> in STE-Anne de Bellevue along Lake St-Louis, Juglan cinerea at 
>>>>> Tatja Hall near the MacDonald campus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some are remarquable and are Heritage. The Morgan arboretum in 
>>>>> Senneville, managed by McGill university has many nut trees. So 
>>>>> does the Montreal Botanical Gardens. The Town of Oka, near the 
>>>>> Ferry landing and the church, have several Aesculus hippocastanus, 
>>>>> [image1.JPG]
>>>>> 
>>>>> A great White Pine forest with several great Royal eagle couples 
>>>>> as well as some Great Bald eagles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is an association to look at : http://www.noixduquebec.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>>> Plani Gester
>>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 21 nov. 2016 ? 09:57, Alice Casselman 
>>>>> <alice.casselman37 at gmail.com<mailto:alice.casselman37 at gmail.com>> 
>>>>> a ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check out re school yards - i.e. I understand that toronto has 
>>>>> stopped planting nut trees due to allergies - e.g. kids eating the 
>>>>> nuts also a private home owners removed an oak tree because it 
>>>>> dropped acorns on his car!
>>>>> so public green spaces may be best bet Alice
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Hank Jones 
>>>>> <acorn at treenuts.ca<mailto:acorn at treenuts.ca>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear CUFN, I seek lists of nut bearing tree species found growing 
>>>>> in Canada?s urban forests. Any pointers? Hank
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was 
>>>>> scrubbed...
>>>>> Name: image1.JPG
>>>>> Type: image/jpeg
>>>>> Size: 525479 bytes
>>>>> Desc: image1.JPG
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> <http://list.web.net/pipermail/canufnet/attachments/20161121/5570c
>>>>> b3a/
>>>>> attachment.jpe>
>>>>> 
>>>>> End of CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>>> *****************************************
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 21:29:48 +0000
> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET
> 	Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
> Message-ID: <5E4D751F-3F1B-4067-9608-C9C16F76AA5D at umontreal.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256"
> 
> Please don't get me wrong but a youngster got one in the eye. He survived. Happy to know all of you survived. Let's maybe question why cities ban Aesculus ssp. For allergy reasons ? chestnut trees are great for their spring flowering show, their shade and how they sometimes feed naturally raised boar and pigs out in the open. 
> 
> Elaine
> Plani Gester
> Arboriculture - Foresterie urbaine
> 
>> Le 22 nov. 2016 ? 3:44 PM, Jim McCready <jdmccready at bell.net> a ?crit :
>> 
>> Mark/ Michael
>> I agree folks are too careful these days. Is a "Conker" the same as a "dony-wacker". That is what we used to call them in Toronto growing up. Yes they did hurt but we all survived.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 2:30 PM, "Burleton, Mark" <mark.burleton at ncc-ccn.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I totally agree Michael. I not sure any child would know a "conker" 
>>> these days,  and has any one tried eating one it's not easy! I 
>>> survived. MB
>>> 
>>> Original Message
>>> From: Michael Richardson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:00 PM
>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>>> Reply To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>> 
>>> I think that suggesting that horse chestnuts can seriously harm 
>>> people and animals is a little bit of scare mongering. I have no 
>>> doubt people are injured but on top of battling with nuts and 
>>> conkers as a child I was also injured falling off bikes, falling out 
>>> of trees, playing sports, fighting, falling off playground 
>>> equipment, etc. I imagine the risk of injury is far less from a marauding Horse Chestnut than running across the street.
>>> 
>>> Horse chestnut is just another tree to apply "the right tree in the 
>>> right place".
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>>> This species if not welcomed anymore near city and public areas, 
>>>> the spiked shell is dangerous and can harm someone seriously if 
>>>> thrown vigorously at a person or an animal.
>>>> 
>>>> If I mentioned this species in my reply, it pertained as an answer 
>>>> on nut bearing trees in different areas.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>> Plani Gester
>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 22 nov. 2016 ? 11:07, Barker John <jbarker at lallemand.com> a ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Hank,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note that if you are planting for edible nuts Aesculus 
>>>>> hippocastanum (horse chestnut) is not edible. The seeds resemble 
>>>>> chestnuts (the fruit from Castanea sativa, which is unrelated to 
>>>>> horse chestnut), but horse chestnut seeds contain toxins. 
>>>>> Squirrels seem to be able to eat horse chestnut seeds, but they 
>>>>> cause illness in humans if eaten.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> E. John Barker, MFC | Urban Forest Health Specialist ISA Certified 
>>>>> Arborist ON-2096A
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> BioForest
>>>>> #8-180 Norseman Street, Toronto, ON M8Z 2R4
>>>>> 
>>>>> t. 705-942-5824 ext. 218 | c. 905-466-6190 | Toll Free
>>>>> 1-888-236-7378 | f. 705-942-8829
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.BioForest.ca
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Hank Jones
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:02 PM
>>>>> To: CUFN
>>>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>>>>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Elaine and Alice for your guidance :-) The trees you 
>>>>> mention are all edibles, and some rough idea of numbers would be 
>>>>> most welcome. I will contact Hudson, McGill/MacDonald and the 
>>>>> others to drill down, to see if I can get some idea of how many 
>>>>> trees may be known. Hank
>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:42 PM, canufnet-request at list.web.net wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Send CANUFNET mailing list submissions to canufnet at list.web.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit 
>>>>>> http://list.web.net/lists/listinfo/canufnet
>>>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 
>>>>>> canufnet-request at list.web.net
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> specific than "Re: Contents of CANUFNET digest..."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Re: Urban nut being trees (Ethier Elaine)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:06:49 +0000
>>>>>> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
>>>>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban nut being trees
>>>>>> Message-ID: <2B3B81ED-5C80-462D-B4D9-B0226A60C37D at umontreal.ca>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> Quite a few around churches and old cemeteries. The town of 
>>>>>> Hudson area in Qu?bec (151 years) has quite a few nut trees 
>>>>>> planted by settlers and since growing from seed on private and 
>>>>>> public land ; Juglan nigra (a provincial Champion), Juglan 
>>>>>> cinerea, Quercus macrocarpa, Quercus rubra (the biggest specimen 
>>>>>> in the province, DHP 206cm was documented a few weeks ago) etc. 
>>>>>> Some rare nut trees in STE-Anne de Bellevue along Lake St-Louis, 
>>>>>> Juglan cinerea at Tatja Hall near the MacDonald campus.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some are remarquable and are Heritage. The Morgan arboretum in 
>>>>>> Senneville, managed by McGill university has many nut trees. So 
>>>>>> does the Montreal Botanical Gardens. The Town of Oka, near the 
>>>>>> Ferry landing and the church, have several Aesculus 
>>>>>> hippocastanus, [image1.JPG]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A great White Pine forest with several great Royal eagle couples 
>>>>>> as well as some Great Bald eagles.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is an association to look at : http://www.noixduquebec.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>>>> Plani Gester
>>>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 21 nov. 2016 ? 09:57, Alice Casselman 
>>>>>> <alice.casselman37 at gmail.com<mailto:alice.casselman37 at gmail.com>> 
>>>>>> a ?crit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Check out re school yards - i.e. I understand that toronto has 
>>>>>> stopped planting nut trees due to allergies - e.g. kids eating 
>>>>>> the nuts also a private home owners removed an oak tree because 
>>>>>> it dropped acorns on his car!
>>>>>> so public green spaces may be best bet Alice
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Hank Jones 
>>>>>> <acorn at treenuts.ca<mailto:acorn at treenuts.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear CUFN, I seek lists of nut bearing tree species found growing 
>>>>>> in Canada?s urban forests. Any pointers? Hank
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> scrubbed...
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>>>>>> cb3a/
>>>>>> attachment.jpe>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> End of CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>>>> *****************************************
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 21:44:14 +0000
> From: "Taylor, Kim (MNRF)" <Kim.C.Taylor at ontario.ca>
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET
> 	Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
> Message-ID:
> 	
> <4DFF10FFBD4E644A83DF038B1A1ACEBC09F4AB63 at CTSPIGDCAPMXS24.cihs.ad.gov.
> on.ca>
> 	
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hell0:
> 
> Some thoughts:
> 
> -  Nut trees are lovely trees to plant.  As nut trees, they will produce nuts.   If they are thrown at someone, it will not feel good.   Learning not to throw things (self control) is part of growing up.  My school yard in PEI had a horse chestnut tree.  Yes, chestnuts were thrown, but, eventually by the end of the year, they were not being thrown.  Kids are trainable...well sort of  :)  
> 
> 
> - When you choose your nut tree, choose one native to your local area (your ecoDistrict).  Don't plant an alien or  an out of range species.   This way you will maintain the ecological integrity of your area and increase your silvicultural success as you will be planting something suitable to your location.
> 
> - If you plant a nut tree you are likely planting a wildlife tree (providing) food for birds and mammals.  This is positive. 
> 
> - Choose a nut tree species which is adapted to your soil/ light and competition conditions.
> 
> - When you plant a tree you are doing a wonderful thing, great that you are doing this.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of Jim 
> McCready
> Sent: November-22-16 3:43 PM
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
> 
> Mark/ Michael
> I agree folks are too careful these days. Is a "Conker" the same as a "dony-wacker". That is what we used to call them in Toronto growing up. Yes they did hurt but we all survived.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 2:30 PM, "Burleton, Mark" <mark.burleton at ncc-ccn.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I totally agree Michael. I not sure any child would know a "conker" 
>> these days,  and has any one tried eating one it's not easy! I 
>> survived. MB
>> 
>>  Original Message
>> From: Michael Richardson
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>> Reply To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>> 
>> I think that suggesting that horse chestnuts can seriously harm 
>> people and animals is a little bit of scare mongering. I have no 
>> doubt people are injured but on top of battling with nuts and conkers 
>> as a child I was also injured falling off bikes, falling out of 
>> trees, playing sports, fighting, falling off playground equipment, 
>> etc. I imagine the risk of injury is far less from a marauding Horse Chestnut than running across the street.
>> 
>> Horse chestnut is just another tree to apply "the right tree in the 
>> right place".
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>>> This species if not welcomed anymore near city and public areas, the 
>>> spiked shell is dangerous and can harm someone seriously if thrown 
>>> vigorously at a person or an animal.
>>> 
>>> If I mentioned this species in my reply, it pertained as an answer 
>>> on nut bearing trees in different areas.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> Elaine Ethier
>>> Plani Gester
>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>> 
>>>> Le 22 nov. 2016 ? 11:07, Barker John <jbarker at lallemand.com> a ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Hank,
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that if you are planting for edible nuts Aesculus 
>>>> hippocastanum (horse chestnut) is not edible. The seeds resemble 
>>>> chestnuts (the fruit from Castanea sativa, which is unrelated to 
>>>> horse chestnut), but horse chestnut seeds contain toxins. Squirrels 
>>>> seem to be able to eat horse chestnut seeds, but they cause illness 
>>>> in humans if eaten.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> E. John Barker, MFC | Urban Forest Health Specialist ISA Certified 
>>>> Arborist ON-2096A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BioForest
>>>> #8-180 Norseman Street, Toronto, ON M8Z 2R4
>>>> 
>>>> t. 705-942-5824 ext. 218 | c. 905-466-6190 | Toll Free
>>>> 1-888-236-7378 | f. 705-942-8829
>>>> 
>>>> www.BioForest.ca
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Hank Jones
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:02 PM
>>>> To: CUFN
>>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>>>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Elaine and Alice for your guidance :-) The trees you 
>>>> mention are all edibles, and some rough idea of numbers would be 
>>>> most welcome. I will contact Hudson, McGill/MacDonald and the 
>>>> others to drill down, to see if I can get some idea of how many 
>>>> trees may be known. Hank
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:42 PM, canufnet-request at list.web.net wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Send CANUFNET mailing list submissions to canufnet at list.web.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit 
>>>>> http://list.web.net/lists/listinfo/canufnet
>>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 
>>>>> canufnet-request at list.web.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at 
>>>>> canufnet-owner at list.web.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more 
>>>>> specific than "Re: Contents of CANUFNET digest..."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Re: Urban nut being trees (Ethier Elaine)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> -
>>>>> ---
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:06:49 +0000
>>>>> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
>>>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban nut being trees
>>>>> Message-ID: <2B3B81ED-5C80-462D-B4D9-B0226A60C37D at umontreal.ca>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Quite a few around churches and old cemeteries. The town of Hudson 
>>>>> area in Qu?bec (151 years) has quite a few nut trees planted by 
>>>>> settlers and since growing from seed on private and public land ; 
>>>>> Juglan nigra (a provincial Champion), Juglan cinerea, Quercus 
>>>>> macrocarpa, Quercus rubra (the biggest specimen in the province, 
>>>>> DHP 206cm was documented a few weeks ago) etc. Some rare nut trees 
>>>>> in STE-Anne de Bellevue along Lake St-Louis, Juglan cinerea at 
>>>>> Tatja Hall near the MacDonald campus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some are remarquable and are Heritage. The Morgan arboretum in 
>>>>> Senneville, managed by McGill university has many nut trees. So 
>>>>> does the Montreal Botanical Gardens. The Town of Oka, near the 
>>>>> Ferry landing and the church, have several Aesculus hippocastanus, 
>>>>> [image1.JPG]
>>>>> 
>>>>> A great White Pine forest with several great Royal eagle couples 
>>>>> as well as some Great Bald eagles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is an association to look at : http://www.noixduquebec.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>>> Plani Gester
>>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 21 nov. 2016 ? 09:57, Alice Casselman 
>>>>> <alice.casselman37 at gmail.com<mailto:alice.casselman37 at gmail.com>> 
>>>>> a ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check out re school yards - i.e. I understand that toronto has 
>>>>> stopped planting nut trees due to allergies - e.g. kids eating the 
>>>>> nuts also a private home owners removed an oak tree because it 
>>>>> dropped acorns on his car!
>>>>> so public green spaces may be best bet Alice
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Hank Jones 
>>>>> <acorn at treenuts.ca<mailto:acorn at treenuts.ca>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear CUFN, I seek lists of nut bearing tree species found growing 
>>>>> in Canada?s urban forests. Any pointers? Hank
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was 
>>>>> scrubbed...
>>>>> Name: image1.JPG
>>>>> Type: image/jpeg
>>>>> Size: 525479 bytes
>>>>> Desc: image1.JPG
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> <http://list.web.net/pipermail/canufnet/attachments/20161121/5570c
>>>>> b
>>>>> 3a/
>>>>> attachment.jpe>
>>>>> 
>>>>> End of CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>>> *****************************************
>> 
>> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 09:01:07 -0500
> From: Naomi Zurcher <treerap at sprintmail.com>
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET
> 	Digest,	Vol 141, Issue 10
> Message-ID: <D9341BD7-BDF3-44FA-A1D7-A6C9FCE91FB9 at sprintmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> Just a reminder that the "horse" chestnut tree that we plant in North America - Aesculus hypocastanum - does not have an edible nuts for humans, If I'm not mistaken, the European chestnut - Castania saliva - is subject to the same Chestnut blight fungal disease as the American chestnut - Castane dentata - and so cannot be grown on our continent.
> 
> Thanks
> Naomi
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 4:44 PM, "Taylor, Kim (MNRF)" <Kim.C.Taylor at ontario.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Hell0:
>> 
>> Some thoughts:
>> 
>> -  Nut trees are lovely trees to plant.  As nut trees, they will produce nuts.   If they are thrown at someone, it will not feel good.   Learning not to throw things (self control) is part of growing up.  My school yard in PEI had a horse chestnut tree.  Yes, chestnuts were thrown, but, eventually by the end of the year, they were not being thrown.  Kids are trainable...well sort of  :)  
>> 
>> 
>> - When you choose your nut tree, choose one native to your local area (your ecoDistrict).  Don't plant an alien or  an out of range species.   This way you will maintain the ecological integrity of your area and increase your silvicultural success as you will be planting something suitable to your location.
>> 
>> - If you plant a nut tree you are likely planting a wildlife tree (providing) food for birds and mammals.  This is positive. 
>> 
>> - Choose a nut tree species which is adapted to your soil/ light and competition conditions.
>> 
>> - When you plant a tree you are doing a wonderful thing, great that you are doing this.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of 
>> Jim McCready
>> Sent: November-22-16 3:43 PM
>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>> 
>> Mark/ Michael
>> I agree folks are too careful these days. Is a "Conker" the same as a "dony-wacker". That is what we used to call them in Toronto growing up. Yes they did hurt but we all survived.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 2:30 PM, "Burleton, Mark" <mark.burleton at ncc-ccn.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I totally agree Michael. I not sure any child would know a "conker" 
>>> these days,  and has any one tried eating one it's not easy! I 
>>> survived. MB
>>> 
>>> Original Message
>>> From: Michael Richardson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:00 PM
>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>>> Reply To: Canadian Urban Forest Network
>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>> 
>>> I think that suggesting that horse chestnuts can seriously harm 
>>> people and animals is a little bit of scare mongering. I have no 
>>> doubt people are injured but on top of battling with nuts and 
>>> conkers as a child I was also injured falling off bikes, falling out 
>>> of trees, playing sports, fighting, falling off playground 
>>> equipment, etc. I imagine the risk of injury is far less from a marauding Horse Chestnut than running across the street.
>>> 
>>> Horse chestnut is just another tree to apply "the right tree in the 
>>> right place".
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>>> This species if not welcomed anymore near city and public areas, 
>>>> the spiked shell is dangerous and can harm someone seriously if 
>>>> thrown vigorously at a person or an animal.
>>>> 
>>>> If I mentioned this species in my reply, it pertained as an answer 
>>>> on nut bearing trees in different areas.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>> Plani Gester
>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 22 nov. 2016 ? 11:07, Barker John <jbarker at lallemand.com> a ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Hank,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note that if you are planting for edible nuts Aesculus 
>>>>> hippocastanum (horse chestnut) is not edible. The seeds resemble 
>>>>> chestnuts (the fruit from Castanea sativa, which is unrelated to 
>>>>> horse chestnut), but horse chestnut seeds contain toxins. 
>>>>> Squirrels seem to be able to eat horse chestnut seeds, but they 
>>>>> cause illness in humans if eaten.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> E. John Barker, MFC | Urban Forest Health Specialist ISA Certified 
>>>>> Arborist ON-2096A
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> BioForest
>>>>> #8-180 Norseman Street, Toronto, ON M8Z 2R4
>>>>> 
>>>>> t. 705-942-5824 ext. 218 | c. 905-466-6190 | Toll Free
>>>>> 1-888-236-7378 | f. 705-942-8829
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.BioForest.ca
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: CANUFNET [mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Hank Jones
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:02 PM
>>>>> To: CUFN
>>>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Urban Forest Edible Nut Trees - CANUFNET 
>>>>> Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Elaine and Alice for your guidance :-) The trees you 
>>>>> mention are all edibles, and some rough idea of numbers would be 
>>>>> most welcome. I will contact Hudson, McGill/MacDonald and the 
>>>>> others to drill down, to see if I can get some idea of how many 
>>>>> trees may be known. Hank
>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:42 PM, canufnet-request at list.web.net wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Send CANUFNET mailing list submissions to canufnet at list.web.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit 
>>>>>> http://list.web.net/lists/listinfo/canufnet
>>>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 
>>>>>> canufnet-request at list.web.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at 
>>>>>> canufnet-owner at list.web.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more 
>>>>>> specific than "Re: Contents of CANUFNET digest..."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Re: Urban nut being trees (Ethier Elaine)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:06:49 +0000
>>>>>> From: Ethier Elaine <elaine.ethier at umontreal.ca>
>>>>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Urban nut being trees
>>>>>> Message-ID: <2B3B81ED-5C80-462D-B4D9-B0226A60C37D at umontreal.ca>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> Quite a few around churches and old cemeteries. The town of 
>>>>>> Hudson area in Qu?bec (151 years) has quite a few nut trees 
>>>>>> planted by settlers and since growing from seed on private and 
>>>>>> public land ; Juglan nigra (a provincial Champion), Juglan 
>>>>>> cinerea, Quercus macrocarpa, Quercus rubra (the biggest specimen 
>>>>>> in the province, DHP 206cm was documented a few weeks ago) etc. 
>>>>>> Some rare nut trees in STE-Anne de Bellevue along Lake St-Louis, 
>>>>>> Juglan cinerea at Tatja Hall near the MacDonald campus.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some are remarquable and are Heritage. The Morgan arboretum in 
>>>>>> Senneville, managed by McGill university has many nut trees. So 
>>>>>> does the Montreal Botanical Gardens. The Town of Oka, near the 
>>>>>> Ferry landing and the church, have several Aesculus 
>>>>>> hippocastanus, [image1.JPG]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A great White Pine forest with several great Royal eagle couples 
>>>>>> as well as some Great Bald eagles.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is an association to look at : http://www.noixduquebec.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Elaine Ethier
>>>>>> Plani Gester
>>>>>> Am?nagement, foresterie urbaine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 21 nov. 2016 ? 09:57, Alice Casselman 
>>>>>> <alice.casselman37 at gmail.com<mailto:alice.casselman37 at gmail.com>> 
>>>>>> a ?crit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Check out re school yards - i.e. I understand that toronto has 
>>>>>> stopped planting nut trees due to allergies - e.g. kids eating 
>>>>>> the nuts also a private home owners removed an oak tree because 
>>>>>> it dropped acorns on his car!
>>>>>> so public green spaces may be best bet Alice
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Hank Jones 
>>>>>> <acorn at treenuts.ca<mailto:acorn at treenuts.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear CUFN, I seek lists of nut bearing tree species found growing 
>>>>>> in Canada?s urban forests. Any pointers? Hank
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was 
>>>>>> scrubbed...
>>>>>> Name: image1.JPG
>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg
>>>>>> Size: 525479 bytes
>>>>>> Desc: image1.JPG
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> <http://list.web.net/pipermail/canufnet/attachments/20161121/5570
>>>>>> cb
>>>>>> 3a/
>>>>>> attachment.jpe>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> End of CANUFNET Digest, Vol 141, Issue 10
>>>>>> *****************************************
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
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