[CANUFNET] Nailing Trees
JPM TREE SERVICE tree
tree6 at shaw.ca
Thu Jul 25 13:30:09 EDT 2024
As Julian states, do leave some extra room for the aluminum nail to accommodate outward growth of the tree.
Whether using aluminum or plastic tags, if the tree encapsulates the tag / nail, then the tree cutter's
chainsaw will not be damaged.
I prefer bright tags placed at least a couple of metres
above ground to deter vandalism, which I have found to be a very rare occurrence. Some arborists
prefer green tags nailed close to the base of the tree. Either way, you want to make sure that the
tag identifies a tree for retention versus removal.
Best,
John Martyn, ISA Certified Arborist (PNW-0610A)
JPM Tree Service
Since 1996
Abbotsford, BC
604.789.4045
www.jpmtree.com <http://www.jpmtree.com/>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 15:58:34 +0000
> From: Peter Shields <peter.shields1 at hotmail.com>
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
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> Hi Bogdan,
>
> I have been on projects where GPS alone does not suffice. Some field marking is required to allow "others" such as construction teams to find a reference point. These fellas often cannot id a tree. In urban streets and small residential properties, tags are usually not needed.
> Some rural sites, forested sites, and the like, field landmarks are needed. I would sometimes at the least tag some for that reference, but certainly not all. A little location descriptor can aid.
> Not sure about the teaching part though...I think there is minimal impact, if any, to the tree, and if left long enough, can last for so many years
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
>
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> From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces at list.web.net> on behalf of Michael Richardson via CANUFNET <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 10:55:23 a.m.
> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
> Cc: Michael Richardson <mrtree at kos.net>
> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees
>
> I am dealing with one site, 6 years in the process now, where homeless are
> ripping the original tags from the trees and we are required to replace
> them. Perhaps the municipality is the answer to the question, along with
> Stephen Smith's answer.
>
>
>> I also think that removing the tags would do more damage to the tree than
>> letting them be grown over if they???re already starting to be embedded.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephen Smith
>>
>> Urban Forest Associates
>>
>> Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration
>>
>> www.ufora.ca<http://www.ufora.ca>
>>
>> Office/fax 416-423-3387
>>
>> Cell 416-707-2164
>>
>>
>>
>> From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces at list.web.net> On Behalf Of Mark Carroll
>> via CANUFNET
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 9:54 AM
>> To: Stephen Smith via CANUFNET <canufnet at list.web.net>
>> Cc: Mark Carroll <environment1st at rogers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees
>>
>>
>>
>> Often projects will be ongoing for years. Tags can be left on until they
>> are absorbed into the tree. If the tag and the records for the tag are
>> always held, then the tag can be used for reference in other monitoring
>> concerns. Use the tag for everything. Size, canopy cover, appraisals,
>> whatever your imagination will drum up. Don't ignore tags just because the
>> original project is completed. Start another project and use the number.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Mark Carroll
>>
>> ISA Certified Arborist/Consultant
>>
>> Certified Lab Tech, Soil Biology
>>
>> Biologically-Complete Compost Specialist
>>
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>> On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 09:17:07 a.m. EDT, Stephen Smith via CANUFNET
>> <canufnet at list.web.net <mailto:canufnet at list.web.net> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Who pays the arborist to come back after the project is done to remove
>> them? Public projects often go on for years.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephen Smith
>>
>> Urban Forest Associates
>>
>> Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration
>>
>> www.ufora.ca<http://www.ufora.ca> <http://www.ufora.ca>
>>
>> Office/fax 416-423-3387
>>
>> Cell 416-707-2164
>>
>>
>>
>> From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces at list.web.net
>> <mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net> > On Behalf Of Bohdan Kowalyk via
>> CANUFNET
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:59 PM
>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net
>> <mailto:canufnet at list.web.net> >
>> Cc: Bohdan Kowalyk <bohdan.kowalyk at gmail.com
>> <mailto:bohdan.kowalyk at gmail.com> >
>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just wondering, where and who teaches arborists that nailing tags into
>> trees and not removing them is a "best management practice (see photo).
>>
>>
>>
>> Bohdan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:20:21 -0700
> From: Julian Dunster <jadunster at gmail.com>
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> I agree with Peter.
>
> No tags is a recipe for disaster as many other people will not have
> access to GIS and even a scaled survey plan is often confusing when
> there are dozens of trees. A well placed tag on a 4 inch long? nail set
> in to the tree by one inch allows for lots of growth, and with the tag
> at the end of the nail, it will last for maybe ten years? (assuming the
> squirrels don't attack it) - often the length of time between starting a
> project and getting to completion on the west coast.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> On Behalf of Dunster and Associates Environmental Consultants Ltd.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Julian A Dunster R.P.F., R.P.P.., M.C.I.P., ISA Certified Arborist,
> ASCA Registered Consulting Arborist # 378,
> ISA Tree Risk Assessment Qualified
> Honourary Life Member ISA + PNWISA
>
> www.dunster.ca www.treelaw.info North American distributor for Rinntechwww.rinntech.info
>
> On Mon/7/22/2024 8:58 AM, Peter Shields via CANUFNET wrote:
>> Hi Bogdan,
>>
>> I have been on projects where GPS alone does not suffice. Some field
>> marking is required to allow "others" such as construction teams to
>> find a reference point. These fellas often cannot id a tree.? In urban
>> streets and small residential properties, tags are usually not needed.
>> Some rural sites, forested sites, and the like, field landmarks are
>> needed. I would sometimes at the least tag some for that reference,
>> but certainly not all. A little location descriptor can aid.
>> Not sure about the teaching part though...I think there is minimal
>> impact, if any, to the tree, and if left long enough, can last for so
>> many years
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces at list.web.net> on behalf of Michael
>> Richardson via CANUFNET <canufnet at list.web.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2024 10:55:23 a.m.
>> *To:* Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net>
>> *Cc:* Michael Richardson <mrtree at kos.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees
>>
>> I am dealing with one site, 6 years in the process now, where homeless are
>> ripping the original tags from the trees and we are required to replace
>> them.? Perhaps the municipality is the answer to the question, along with
>> Stephen Smith's answer.
>>
>>
>>> I also think that removing the tags would do more damage to the tree
>> than
>>> letting them be grown over if they???re already starting to be embedded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen Smith
>>>
>>> Urban Forest Associates
>>>
>>> Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration
>>>
>>> www.ufora.ca <http://www.ufora.ca>
>>>
>>> Office/fax 416-423-3387
>>>
>>> Cell 416-707-2164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces at list.web.net> On Behalf Of Mark Carroll
>>> via CANUFNET
>>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 9:54 AM
>>> To: Stephen Smith via CANUFNET <canufnet at list.web.net>
>>> Cc: Mark Carroll <environment1st at rogers.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Often projects will be ongoing for years. Tags can be left on until they
>>> are absorbed into the tree. If the tag and the records for the tag are
>>> always held, then the tag can be used for reference in other monitoring
>>> concerns. Use the tag for everything. Size, canopy cover, appraisals,
>>> whatever your imagination will drum up. Don't ignore tags just
>> because the
>>> original project is completed. Start another project and use the number.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>
>>> Mark Carroll
>>>
>>> ISA Certified Arborist/Consultant
>>>
>>> Certified Lab Tech, Soil Biology
>>>
>>> Biologically-Complete Compost Specialist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dirt to Soil Inc.
>>>
>>> Biological Solutions to Growing and Caring For Plants
>>>
>>> Where the Symphony of Soil Health Resonates. Join us on a journey to
>>> revive the earth beneath your feet, embracing a regenerative dance with
>>> nature. Through our innovative biological solutions, we breathe life
>> back
>>> into the soil naturally. Together, lets revive and nurture vibrant
>>> ecosystems where plants thrive naturally!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 09:17:07 a.m. EDT, Stephen Smith via
>> CANUFNET
>>> <canufnet at list.web.net <mailto:canufnet at list.web.net
>> <mailto:canufnet at list.web.net>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays the arborist to come back after the project is done to remove
>>> them? Public projects often go on for years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen Smith
>>>
>>> Urban Forest Associates
>>>
>>> Urban Forestry & Ecological Restoration
>>>
>>> www.ufora.ca <http://www.ufora.ca> <http://www.ufora.ca>
>>>
>>> Office/fax 416-423-3387
>>>
>>> Cell 416-707-2164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: CANUFNET <canufnet-bounces at list.web.net
>>> <mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net
>> <mailto:canufnet-bounces at list.web.net>> > On Behalf Of Bohdan Kowalyk via
>>> CANUFNET
>>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 5:59 PM
>>> To: Canadian Urban Forest Network <canufnet at list.web.net
>>> <mailto:canufnet at list.web.net <mailto:canufnet at list.web.net>> >
>>> Cc: Bohdan Kowalyk <bohdan.kowalyk at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:bohdan.kowalyk at gmail.com <mailto:bohdan.kowalyk at gmail.com>> >
>>> Subject: [CANUFNET] Nailing Trees
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just wondering, where and who teaches arborists that nailing tags into
>>> trees and not removing them is a "best management practice (see photo).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bohdan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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