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Fri May 14 14:50:41 EDT 2010

 please remove my name from your contact list 

thank you 

From: lj1967 at sympatico.ca
To: homeles_ot-l at list.web.net
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 14:33:09 +0000
Subject: [homeles_ot-l] HMM, QUITTING OVER FOLKS NOT HAVING FAITH IN THE NIMBY STATUS QUO.

  TRULY TRIPPY HMM, QUITTING OVER FOLKS NOT HAVING FAITH IN CITY of OTTAWA's NIMBY STATUS QUO.

Quitting never solved anything. Nor has living in denial.

ps: "don't bother to micro-manage the Poor, it won't work."

regards, Zoe Kelley, Homelessness System Survivour.
 http://homelessnation.org

"Courage my friends, 'tis not too late to build a better world". ~Tommy Douglas. 

"Those who do not feel pain much, seldom think that it is felt. And yes, to wipe all tears from all faces is a task too hard for mortals; but to alleviate misfortunes is often within the most limited power: yet the opportunities which every day affords of relieving the most wretched of human beings are overlooked and neglected with equal disregard of policy and goodness." ~ Samuel Johnson. 

http://www.canadians.org   

Subject: RE: [homeles_ot-l] And FREE SPEECH and dissent will have no place in Ottawa. Abuse of power is already the norm, for Ottawa --> Tonight FW: City to give itself powers to ticket people for being "unruly" in city streets - public meeting Thursday Apr. 22
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:51:00 -0400
From: RichardH.Seguin at ottawa.ca
To: lj1967 at sympatico.ca

Please remove my name from your list

From: homeles_ot-l-bounces at list.web.net [mailto:homeles_ot-l-bounces at list.web.net] On Behalf Of lj1967 at sympatico.ca
Sent: April 23, 2010 12:01 PM
To: homeles_ot-l at list.web.net
Subject: [homeles_ot-l] And FREE SPEECH and dissent will have no place in Ottawa. Abuse of power is already the norm, for Ottawa --> Tonight FW: City to give itself powers to ticket people for being "unruly" in city streets - public meeting Thursday Apr. 22

And FREE SPEECH and dissent will have no place in Ottawa. 

Abuse of power is already the norm.

Rideau Street already is a weird show of police-based bullying.

Moreso, the real unruly-trouble-makers are those drafting these ignorant so-called laws.

What an ugly City.

Dissent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 

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From: lbrowne at ysb.on.ca
To: homeles_ot-l at list.web.net
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:15:29 -0400
Subject: [homeles_ot-l] Tonight FW: City to give itself powers to ticket people for being "unruly" in city streets - public meeting Thursday Apr. 22

FYI . . . Lynne Browne
Coordinator, Alliance to End Homelessness (ATEH)
147 Besserer St., 2nd Floor, Ottawa, ON K1N 6A7
Cell 613-513-6647
Office 613-241-7913, ext. 205
www.endhomelessnessottawa.ca

From: Linda Lalonde [mailto:linda_lalonde_ottawa at yahoo.com] 
Sent: April 21, 2010 10:41 PM
To: Linda Lalonde
Subject: City to give itself powers to ticket people for being "unruly" in city streets - public meeting Thursday Apr. 22

Hi folks,

Public Meeting Thursday, April 22 at 7 pm at City Hall

I'm sending this to both local and national folks because this could be a bylaw that will impact your use of Ottawa streets. Although I'm sure you'll want to Maintain Safety and Harmony on City streets!

The suggestion is that this is to deal with rowdy characters outside bars and clubs. The question is whether that is all it will be used for.

Who is going to decide if I am disturbing adjacent property owners and where is the line between our mutual rights to access/occupy the public spaces in the city? Will this be used against people who some members of society would rather not have in their neighbourhoods? Is Not-In-My-Back-Yard moving to the front yard and the streets?

Will this be used to quell legitimate citizen protest such as marches, demonstrations or sit-ins? 

It also concerns me that the notice went out just over 48 hours before a public meeting which has, I'm sure by coincidence, been scheduled for Earth Day when many members of the community will be otherwise occupied.

Linda.

The City of Ottawa is moving to give itself powers to ticket people for making noise in the streets.  "Disorderly conduct" is defined pretty broadly:

1.     No person shall engage in loud, boisterous, threatening, abusive, insulting or indecent language, or engage in any disorderly conduct or behaviour on a highway; and
2.     No person shall engage in any activity so as to interfere with or become a nuisance to the general public using the highway or to adjacent property owners.

A "highway" is any city street, sidewalk or space, in this case.  

There is little indication what the "useful enforcement tools" might be....This could apply to folks on the street who do their living and hanging out there - it could just as easily apply to any demonstration or action you could imagine.  The notice was sent out yesterday evening...

Public meeting at City Hall on this tomorrow, Thursday, April 22, 7:00 PM

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From: "Lemay, Anne" <Anne.Lemay at ottawa.ca>

Date: April 20, 2010 4:51:49 PM EDT

To: undisclosed-recipients:;

Subject: Invitation: Public meeting / Réunion publique

Please see the attached invitation to a public meeting at City Hall this Thursday April 22nd.  
Re: MAINTAINING SAFETY AND HARMONY ON CITY STREETS 

Veuillez prendre note de l'invitation ci-joint pour une réunion publique à l'hotel de ville ce jeudi 22 avril. 
Re: SÉCURITÉ ET TRANQUILLITÉ DANS LES RUES DE LA VILLE 

<<Reunion Publique - avril 22 - Sécurité et Tranquillité dans les Rues de la Ville - FR.pdf>> <<Public Meeting - April 22 - Safety and Harmony on City Streets - EN.pdf>> <<Discussion Paper - Maintaining Safety and Harmony on City streets - final.doc>>   <<FR - Discussion Paper - Maintaining Safety and Harmony on City streets - final.doc>> 

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